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iPhone X I love the size of the XR but...

someone33

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I wish it had an OLED screen and all the features of the XS. Is it possible Apple would make a premium phone in the 6.1" size in the future? The X/XS is a little small and the XS Max is too big.
 
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Freakonomics101

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This. The "low cost" iPhone should be the smallest one. But, that's just my opinion.

I don’t think that would be the best choice. People like bigger phones. The XR is “cheaper.” It’s going to be a hot seller and how Apple made the XR it is today was a smart move on their end.

A “low cost” iPhone is definitely not the XR. Seems to be the iPhone 7, which can be purchased on Apple’s website, refurbished, for $399. $50 more than the iPhone SE. That’s a good price for the 7, in my opinion.
 
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Baldilocks

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Going forward, every phone they sell will have this same design language. I just find it odd that they have the mid-size phone as the lower cost option. In the iPhone world, we have always associated bigger as more expensive. Just going to take some getting used to.
 
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TedJustAdmitit

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I have a non-scientific answer to why the XR might be larger and that could be because of slightly different inners for the LCD screen, otherwise it doesn't make sense why the XR would have the larger screen.
 
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JPack

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I feel like the XR with the LCD should have been 5.8" and the XS 6.1". I'm sure it was more cost effective for Apple to keep the XS at 5.8" but hopefully they change things up next year.

Why? The competition is offering mainstream phones with 6.1" and 6.28" displays.

XR is a mainstream phone in Apple's lineup.
 
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someone33

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Why? The competition is offering mainstream phones with 6.1" and 6.28" displays.

XR is a mainstream phone in Apple's lineup.

Except it's the "budget" option. I'm not saying it's cheap, but it's the cheapest one Apple offers of the new phones. I and I suspect many other people want a premium Apple phone in the 6.1-6.2" range.
 
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JPack

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I think most people don't seem to understand the XR was intended for the Chinese market.
 
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Crazyj414

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I wish it had an OLED screen and all the features of the XS. Is it possible Apple would make a premium phone in the 6.1" size in the future? The X/XS is a little small and the XS Max is too big.

I prob would have upgraded if the Xr had all the specs of xs and 6.1. Maybe next year!
 
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JPack

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Still, the Western world will buy the majority of these things.

Apple already has most countries in its pocket. Apple could release a junk device and many people would buy it.

The exception is China because there's real competition there. There are many affordable 6" devices from Huawei, Oppo, and Vivo selling for $400-500.

XR has dual-SIM and a large display while iOS 12 has a dedicated QR scanner. These are all Chinese market features.

Apple focuses the majority of its efforts on where the growth is, not on satisfying consumers they've already won over.
 
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mrjoeyjiffy

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I think it's not about it being 'bigger' than the XS so much as the phone for the average person and therefore its a compromise between both sizes so that it hopefully appeals to the broadest range of people
 
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PeteS1963

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The reason that the XR is bigger than the X/XS and roughly the size it is is kind of obvious. It’s all down to bezels.

In order to get an LCD display with such thin or decreased size bezels Apple had to use an new, small LED chip. As far as I know this is a first in a LCD smartphone. The disadvantage of the small chip is that it sacrifices accuracy, hence the lower resolution, but at this point in time it’s not possible to get smaller bezels than the XR on an LCD display.

Now, if Apple made the XR the same (or worse smaller) physical size as the XS the bezels would look silly - there would be less screen with the SAME bezel. And some people are already moaning about the XR bezel size....
 
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Diorama

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Me Ug. Ug live in cave. Ug think small thing cheap, big thing expensive. Ug no agree with Apple strategy on premium and mid range phone size.
 
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EugW

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I feel like the XR with the LCD should have been 5.8" and the XS 6.1". I'm sure it was more cost effective for Apple to keep the XS at 5.8" but hopefully they change things up next year.
Mathematically that does not work, unless they change the technology used dramatically.

The options are:

5.5" small LCD
5.8" small OLED
6.1" big LCD
6.5" big OLED

The above 5.5" small LCD doesn't currently exist. I believe it will be introduced in 2019.

I think most people don't seem to understand the XR was intended for the Chinese market.
It will sell huge numbers in the Western countries too.

Overall, some analysts believe that the Xr will sell 50% of all iPhones after October. The Max would sell 20%. The remaining 30% would be split amongst the Xs, 8+, 8, 7+, 7.
 
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EugW

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For those who want the SE: Some Apple stores still had the SE last week. Are they all gone now?
 
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Emtbill

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The reason that the XR is bigger than the X/XS and roughly the size it is is kind of obvious. It’s all down to bezels.

In order to get an LCD display with such thin or decreased size bezels Apple had to use an new, small LED chip. As far as I know this is a first in a LCD smartphone. The disadvantage of the small chip is that it sacrifices accuracy, hence the lower resolution, but at this point in time it’s not possible to get smaller bezels than the XR on an LCD display.

Now, if Apple made the XR the same (or worse smaller) physical size as the XS the bezels would look silly - there would be less screen with the SAME bezel. And some people are already moaning about the XR bezel size....

Have to say, after having Xr, don't even notice the bezel.
 
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PeteS1963

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Have to say, after having Xr, don't even notice the bezel.

I don’t notice it much too. Although put it against an older iPhone with a “chin” and “forehead” the older iPhones (to me at least) look a bit dated. Having said that I get the feeling that the average iPhone consumer isn’t that bothered about bezels.

From a distance I also have trouble telling the difference between the bezels on a XR and XS, especially with the XS in a case. Some of those clear cases refract and reflect light in such a way that the bezels can appear thicker.
 
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