I Love Windows. I really do

[Scarlet Fever]

i installed eckspee on my MacBook (i'm still apologizing to it).

I spent hours trying to get it onto the internet. i tried every preference and properties pane, but i must have missed something, because it never got online.

On my MacBook, during set-up, the wireless network was detected, i entered the password, and i was on the net before i had even gotten into my account.

 

[seanf]

I've just spent half an hour making an Automator script that will eliminate spaces, exclamation points, full stops (periods), question marks, commas ...

All of those are valid in Windows filenames, except for question marks

Sean

 

[mad jew]

Not via CIFS, they're not. What good is a valid character if it can't be transferred to the system in the first place...

 

[Markleshark]

I love Windows, my personal fav. being uPVC ones...

Don't ya just love that plastic... mmmmm...

However, the British Monarchy never used to be so keen, shame, really.

 

[Sesshi]

i installed eckspee on my MacBook (i'm still apologizing to it).

I spent hours trying to get it onto the internet. i tried every preference and properties pane, but i must have missed something, because it never got online.

On my MacBook, during set-up, the wireless network was detected, i entered the password, and i was on the net before i had even gotten into my account.

One could argue which is better, a car with decent performance which is a totally A-B machine in that it requires little skill or knowledge to drive, or a car which is capable of significantly higher performance - but requires a certain amount of skill and knowledge in order to drive it.

Cluelessness is not necessarily a mitigating factor in pronouncing something inferior.

 

[Queso]

One could argue which is better, a car with decent performance which is a totally A-B machine in that it requires little skill or knowledge to drive, or a car which is capable of significantly higher performance - but requires a certain amount of skill and knowledge in order to drive it.

Significantly higher performance on XP? That's rather a subjective opinion.

 

[Sesshi]

Significantly higher performance on XP? That's rather a subjective opinion.

I guess it depends on whether you've tried running similar applications side by side and I don't think it's subjective - it's ironically highly relevant if you're working in the way that OS X is nominally better for, multitasking. VM management is exceedingly poor on OS X from a functional point of view, and things fall behind further with Leopard vs Vista.

I realised recently that I was giving OS X's method of operation a little too much credit as enabling technology. The key benefit of having OS X for me has turned out to be that it's allowed me to unlearn many of Windows' single-task-centric habits that you take on by default. I've applied what I've learned on OS X to Windows and I find that I'm just as effective, if not more so when comparing Windows / OS X machines under many+heavy-app conditions.

iLife is very important for many I know, but it's less relevant for me. I face no networking restrictions under Windows, and most importantly for me, while there is no real reason to boot up an OS X installation when working under Windows, there is almost always a reason to boot up a Windows installation when working under OS X.

I'm not saying I don't like OS X, I'm saying that if you want to get stuff done and you know what you're doing, then OS X may not necessarily be the most productive platform to be on. It's great for standalone use for sure - OS X has an elegance of operation that Windows can't match.

Your mileage may vary and all that

 

[joe50000]

Windows is definitely a doable system - you just have to know what you're doing. For some reason I've never gotten frequent system crashes. Working through Windows 95 really really sucked though.

 

[brikeh]

Well mate, your clueless then.

I dont get it?
Is he clueless because he hasnt seen your pictures on flickr?

 

[Queso]

Your mileage may vary and all that

The networking advantage of XP only really works if you're working with Windows networks. I tend to work more with Solaris or Linux when I'm networking to non-Macs except if I'm remote controlling a Windows server, which is obviously easy enough on both XP and Tiger. With OSX, you get an XWindows server built in and the ability to connect to multiple file systems, which is essential if you're trying to work with UNIX. The built in SSH client in OSX is also extremely handy when configuring networking devices/servers without the failings of using Telnet (unencrypted traffic etc.). I know you can get open source software that does this on Windows, but having it all there and built into the OS just makes life easier if you're using it a lot.

I've also found that XP becomes appallingly difficult to use when you load it up with several tasks together, even on machines with more than 1GB RAM. I guess it depends on what software you're using and what you're trying to connect to.

Horses for courses.

 

[Sesshi]

Horses for course, and also like for like of course. I compare and contrast my experiences with very similar hardware classes as I've kept my Windows hardware in step with my primary Mac systems. My experience differs from yours in terms VM usage and of multi-OS access in that tools are plentiful for Windows > UNIX (OS X access is irrelevant in this case), whereas apart from UNIX, the entry to Windows is still something of a hassle for OS X despite the recently released functionality on Intel Macs.

And of course, the ownership cycle is not just about the OS but also about hardware, service and support. Once again, comparing like for like Apple comes off worse in most aspects bar design.

 

[Queso]

My experience differs from yours in terms VM usage and of multi-OS access in that tools are plentiful for Windows > UNIX (OS X access is irrelevant in this case), whereas apart from UNIX, the entry to Windows is still something of a hassle for OS X despite the recently released functionality on Intel Macs

Here's something that might interest you if you don't know already. It's a pay for add-on, but makes the Mac to AD/Windows integration a damn sight easier.

 

[prady16]

The only good thing you can do with your Windows PC is to go to www.apple.com/store and order a mac!

 

[lmalave]

Windows is definitely a doable system - you just have to know what you're doing. For some reason I've never gotten frequent system crashes. Working through Windows 95 really really sucked though.

It's not just about system crashes. Windows also has the annoying habit of collecting little glitches over time, like error popus at startup, when running certain software, etc. I've used Windows professionally for about 10 years, and OSX both professionally and personally for about 5 years, and at this point I just have a lot more confidence in OS X being trouble-free than I do in any version of Windows.

 

[Transeau]

I love windows too!

They are great! They let light in the room.
I can open the ones at the back of my house and then I can hear the stream in my backyard.

 

[geese]

I love windows too!

They are great! They let light in the room.
I can open the ones at the back of my house and then I can hear the stream in my backyard.

I prefer doors myself.

 

[Queso]

I love windows too!

They are great! They let light in the room.
I can open the ones at the back of my house and then I can hear the stream in my backyard.

Is it a Windows-only stream? If you open the back door is there silence?

 

[MacBoobsPro]

I love OSX. I Really do.

My reasons:
1. Gaming
2. Almost anything runs. The only thing that wont run: Viruses.
3. Pie charts, spreadsheets, word documents flawlessly.
4. iLife
5. User friendly
8. Security
9. Looks great
10. It just works.

 

[dsnort]

1. Gaming

I have more games on my Mac than I ever did on my PC, but that's personal preference, I'm not a big gamer.

2. Almost anything runs

If you have the right install disks. And if it doesn't have a conflict with another app. And if the comp doesn't lock up.

I will admit that I had a lot of apps on my PC that ran great. Spyware, browser hijackers,.....

3. Pie charts, spreadsheets, word documents flawlessly.

I have more problems with these apps on Mac than any other.

Hmmmm, MS Windows gave me trouble, and now MS Office for Mac give me problems. I wonder if there's a connection?