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Sony. The last music label to offer DRM-free music. The company that put rootkits on their CDs to stop them from being copied. The company whose movie format (Blu-ray) implemented more DRM than their competitor. Guess what they're doing now?

Well, those darn evil people at Sony have become...the first company to provide a legal method to rip movies?

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/843/843979p1.html


January 7, 2008 - Now, your Blu-ray library can follow you wherever you go. According to an article from PC World, Sony demonstrated the ability to insert a Blu-ray movie into a PS3 and then transfer a copy of that movie to a PSP or a Memory Stick at its booth at CES. Highlighted as the next level of disc copying, this was merely one part of the new "BD Live" functionality, which will include the ability to download ring tones and new content to BD Live players.

According to David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you. There was always the promise of greater interactivity. You'll see that coming in the new year."

We tried to contact SCEA, but they were unavailable for comment at the time of publication of this article. While there was no estimated time that consumers would see this new function, it could make 2008 a very entertaining year for PSP and PS3 users, and further strengthen Blu-ray in the format war.


I'm curious about the formats; will it be an MPEG-4 file that will play on an iPod too? In all likelyhood I'd expect that movie companies wouldn't let them get away with it if they don't wrap the output file in some kind of DRM, but it is still absurdly cool that you can finally rip a Blu-ray movie and toss it on a PSP.

I applaud Sony greatly for this.

Now let's see Apple get this in iTunes :D
 
yeah its great since I buy all movies on Blu-Ray now (well... except those cheapy $8 DVD's at Bestbuy n stuff) so if they are nice and let my put them on my Mac or iPod (pppppppppplllllllleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeee) it would be sweet but even so, it might make me use my PSP for movies more often.
 
A very nice move! Oddly enough I think I "requested" this feature a long time ago, but for DVD to PSP.

Hopefully it sparks a big change in which you don't just buy the film, but a license of sorts to play the film on any device you own. Unlike now where you have to step into legally gray area of Mac The Ripper and his DVD ripping friends.
 
How long before the hackers crack it and work out how to copy full BD ?


Great idea for some I guess, but personally I never watch movies on the move anyway.... (just watching Harry Potter : OftP on BD as it happens :) )
 
How long before the hackers crack it and work out how to copy full BD ?


Great idea for some I guess, but personally I never watch movies on the move anyway.... (just watching Harry Potter : OftP on BD as it happens :) )

They would get a PSP version of the film which would look rather craptacular on a full size HDTV. They also would lack the dolby/dts/THD audio tracks. They wouldnt get the BD content from it..

Batting negative nowadays MRU? Need a vacation? :p ;)
 
They would get a PSP version of the film which would look rather craptacular on a full size HDTV. They also would lack the dolby/dts/THD audio tracks. They wouldnt get the BD content from it..

Batting negative nowadays MRU? Need a vacation? :p ;)

Not being negative Ed.. honest.. Just my usualy sceptical of everything self :D:p But if your offering a vacation out of this craptacular weather were having hear I'll gladly accept :D


No I meant if they found a loop hole / backdoor which allowed them access to the HD version of the film. :) Just like how the hackers find loop holes in most formats at some point, I wondered if having this feature might inadvertently give them more of an opportunity, but trying to remember because there hasn't been any mention in a long time, but didn't they manage to rip a BD in Linux a while ago ?
 
Not being negative Ed.. honest.. Just my usualy sceptical of everything self :D:p But if your offering a vacation out of this craptacular weather were having hear I'll gladly accept :D


No I meant if they found a loop hole / backdoor which allowed them access to the HD version of the film. :) Just like how the hackers find loop holes in most formats at some point, I wondered if having this feature might inadvertently give them more of an opportunity, but trying to remember because there hasn't been any mention in a long time, but didn't they manage to rip a BD in Linux a while ago ?

Nothing is hacker proof, its kinda like buying a car alarm. You can buy the best one you can afford but at the end of the day if someone wants the car they will take it.

BD is about being pro-active to protect the IP on the disc, no one can guarentee 100% protection but BD does offer a lot of security if the studio chooses to use it.

Tell ya what, you pick up the flight and I'll give you free room and board ;)

Ed
 
I'm curious about the formats; will it be an MPEG-4 file that will play on an iPod too? In all likelyhood I'd expect that movie companies wouldn't let them get away with it if they don't wrap the output file in some kind of DRM, but it is still absurdly cool that you can finally rip a Blu-ray movie and toss it on a PSP.

I applaud Sony greatly for this.

Now let's see Apple get this in iTunes :D

Isn't Fox owned by Sony Pictures? Fox DVD's will have an iPod compatible version of the files on the DVD.

The Blu-ray is a different story. Sony can decide to only make a PSP/Walkman version ONLY of the file since these devices to compete with the iPod/:apple:TV...
 
Wow...the last company to give up DRM on musiv goes and pulls something like this.


Now, let me do it on my Mac/PC for an device, and I'll just die!


But hot damn, Sony might know what their doing!:p
 
Sounds like Sony are really trying to give consumers what they want. :)
 
From my understanding of it....you don't actually "RIP" the blu-ray copy, but rather the Blu-Ray disc will come with two copies of the film: one in high def(obviously), and the other in standard def in a format that the PSP(and hopefully other devices) supports. Now I do also know that Sony has decided to ditch its proprietary DRM solution ATRAC(for sound) and go with the windows media DRM solution, but how this affects video is anyones guess. I am highly anticipating more details on this topic.
 
From my understanding of it....

I'm curious the source- AFAIK, today at CES was the first time Sony's ever showed it off. There has been no other information released that I'm aware of...did I miss something?

We know that in Fox's case there's an iTunes version of the movie shipping on the DVD, but nobody knows how Sony is pulling it off with Blu-ray.

Either way, I anticipate more details too.
 
this is awesome. I own both a ps3 and a psp. Now if only the psp was as good as the iPod touch at surfing the net.
 
Good idea, wish/hope there is a way to stick the file onto an iPod. Is there an official release from Sony stating when this update may come?
 
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