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How about getting a classic and using it as your music server, its what I do.

LOL!! at the complaint of the Ipad being to heavy, wow....
 
How about getting a classic and using it as your music server, its what I do.

LOL!! at the complaint of the Ipad being to heavy, wow....

It is *too* heavy for comfortable long time use especially after using an iPad mini. (The mini weighs half of what the iPad w/ Retina weighs.) I pick up my iPad 3 now and it feels antiquated. Sure, it's not like 5 pounds heavy, but it can become quite uncomfortable after reading one-handed with it for more than an hour or so.
 
"Need" LOL.

50GB is a lot of music.

Make playlists for different moods, activities etc. Sync just them.

My Spotify app with 12 playlists covers multiple for driving, studying, reading, working. 40-90 tracks each. 1.7GB total used for storage.

Or pay the storage tax for lack of organization.

590 gigs isn't a lot for music lol. I'm at 150 gigs of music alone. But yeah streaming services are the way to go. Google Play has Saved my a lot of hassle. To bad there isn't a official Google Play App for IOS. But you could always use your web browser.


It is *too* heavy for comfortable long time use especially after using an iPad mini. (The mini weighs half of what the iPad w/ Retina weighs.) I pick up my iPad 3 now and it feels antiquated. Sure, it's not like 5 pounds heavy, but it can become quite uncomfortable after reading one-handed with it for more than an hour or so.

Then use what humans have 2 hands? lol I haven't had many problems with holding my 4 for a long period of time, but thats me and i have freakishly long fingers >.<
 
Then use what humans have 2 hands? lol I haven't had many problems with holding my 4 for a long period of time, but thats me and i have freakishly long fingers >.<

Of course 2 hands is an option for most, but that's still not the answer. The full sized iPad needs to be lighter. The weight of the iPad 3 was my only complaint with it and I'm not a small person. I had issues with the weight of it long before I even purchased the iPad mini. As someone who reads a lot on iPads, I felt the 3 was just too heavy to read on for long periods.
 
This. Personally, I would have absolutely no need carrying around 50GB of music on my iPad.

Then you are not half as interested in music as me and some other uses here. We are all different.

A sports person wouldn't jog in 10$ sneakers from the local thrift store. For him the sports gear makes a great difference in his life. For me, there is a significant difference in having to listen to the same playlist over and over over because my iPad can't store all my music, or to be able to play all of my 50 GB of music on my iPad that I carry everywhere I go.
 
Of course 2 hands is an option for most, but that's still not the answer. The full sized iPad needs to be lighter. The weight of the iPad 3 was my only complaint with it and I'm not a small person. I had issues with the weight of it long before I even purchased the iPad mini. As someone who reads a lot on iPads, I felt the 3 was just too heavy to read on for long periods.

But its 1.4 pounds i mean this in the weakest of realms is light. I mean come one already guys its not that heavy lol. Try holding it in your arms then. The I pad Mini is light but even if the reduce the new Ipad to 1.1 pounds or a pound people will still say its heavy sheesh
 
But its 1.4 pounds i mean this in the weakest of realms is light. I mean come one already guys its not that heavy lol. Try holding it in your arms then. The I pad Mini is light but even if the reduce the new Ipad to 1.1 pounds or a pound people will still say its heavy sheesh


If it was reduced to just over 1 lb, many would agree that it's a big difference. You're talking about a 35% percent difference in weight. That's a lot when dealing with only 1.4 lbs to start with.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my iPad 3. Until I bought the mini.
 
But its 1.4 pounds i mean this in the weakest of realms is light. I mean come one already guys its not that heavy lol. Try holding it in your arms then. The I pad Mini is light but even if the reduce the new Ipad to 1.1 pounds or a pound people will still say its heavy sheesh

I'm waiting for the iPad mIcro. A device is unusable unless it can be balanced on my pinkie finger for 12hours. :)
 
As someone who have owned both iPad 3 and iPad mini, I have something to add in this discussion.

The iPad isn't heavy like "oh, my backback is sure heavy today". It's not heavy in the sense you can't pick it up. But it's got a few extra ounces, which means the many muscles you have in your arm and palm will get tired after just 20-30 minutes of use. And when your muscles get tired, it's not comfortable to use it. This is basic physiology and applies to everyone. Also, the sharp edges makes the weight even more uncomfortable, but this applies mostly when you use your iPad in bed and such.

Basically: when you are using an iPad 3 for more than 15 minutes, you are constantly reminded that you are actually holding something bulky in your hands. When using the mini, it's so light you forget your are actueally holding it.

It's like a world atlas and a pocket book. None of them are heavy, but one of them is sure more comfortable to use..
 
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The iPad isn't heavy like "oh, my backback is sure heavy today". It's not heavy in the sense you can't pick it up. But it's got a few extra pounds, which means the many muscles you have in your arm and palm will get tired after just 20-30 minutes of use. And when your muscles get tired, it's not comfortable to use it. This is basic physiology and applies to everyone. Also, the sharp edges makes the weight even more uncomfortable, but this applies mostly when you use your iPad in bed and such.

I totally agree with you on this. The few extra ounces (I suppose you meant ounces, not pounds) surely make a difference, and the added size makes the weight-difference even more noticeable.
 
If it was reduced to just over 1 lb, many would agree that it's a big difference. You're talking about a 35% percent difference in weight. That's a lot when dealing with only 1.4 lbs to start with.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my iPad 3. Until I bought the mini.

Add a nice case and it can easily go over two pounds.
 
The question might seem odd, but hear me out. In Norway we don't have access to iTunes Match, so my 50 GB of music totally kills my iOS devices (and I don't like Spotify). My first iPad was an iPad 3, which I liked, but due to the retina apps taking insane amounts of space and the whole device being too heavy for my use, I bought an iPad mini. Non-retina looks bad, but the upside is that the apps are smaller so I can actually have a few apps.

I think you fooled yourself here. All apps are equal in size on every device. Simply said: a non-retina iPad app has all the code for Retina app + all the high-res artwork for Retina apps. If it's a universal app, it's also got everything for non-retina and retina iPhone.
 
I say buy it but not right away, wait for an iPad sale or something. Remember the iPads with the most flash memory have the most margin and are more likely to be reduced in price to other models. I bought my 64gb LTE for $770 new (normally $899) whereas here at least the 128gb will be around $999 with tax, so if I want it now it would cost me at least $230 for another 64gb which isn't worth it. Wait for the iPad sales and then get one I say.
 
I think you fooled yourself here. All apps are equal in size on every device. Simply said: a non-retina iPad app has all the code for Retina app + all the high-res artwork for Retina apps. If it's a universal app, it's also got everything for non-retina and retina iPhone.

Ah, you are probably right. But I compared the iPad 3 and iPad mini with excactly the same content on them, and the mini had 2-3 GB more empty space on it. Could it be due to the OS not being retina?
 
I personally find the 128GB iPad price beyond expensive. It's not a laptop, but certainly priced as one at that point.
Really the price is better than I expected. The extra 64gb costs the same as the extra 16gb difference between the 16gb iPad and the 32gb iPad.
 
Non-retina looks bad, but the upside is that the apps are smaller so I can actually have a few apps.

Um... apps are the same no matter which iPad you use them on. The Appstore doesn't dish out different binaries based upon the model you are using. Once an app gets updated for retina, all users have the retina artwork... even on a non-retina device. All of this time you have been experiencing a placebo effect.
 
Synology solution

I recommend getting a Synology DiskStation NAS and installing the included "Audio Station" server app. There's an excellent (and free) client app for iOS.

Audio Station:

1) Indexes all your music or lets you browse by folder if you want to keep it organized yourself (uses built-in DLNA service)

2) Lets you download whatever music you specify from your NAS to your device for offline listening. You can even access the server remotely from your iOS device or any desktop web browser. You can cache up to 2000 songs.

3) Plays .flac and other non-iOS supported formats (not sure if native or transcoded, but it works)

4) Supports AirPlay

The DiskStation can also run an iTunes server. The sky's the limit when it comes to storage--it'll take any full-size HDD. With a 4-disk system you can have 16 TB of space without redundancy (not recommended), or 12 TB protected from a disk failure using the "Synology hybrid RAID" system. Personally I have a two-disk DiskStation 212+ (since replaced by the 213+) with two 3 TB drives with full redundancy.

Usually in the morning I'll download several albums or playlists to my iPad for the day.

I've run into a few bugs with media indexing, but resetting everything takes about half an hour. Otherwise my DiskStation extremely reliable--I've run it for 90 days without any problems.

Bonus: the DiskStation supports SSH tunneling for encryped web browsing from anywhere, plus FTP, Plex, web hosting, and lots of other services.

There are other NAS brands but this one is pretty solid.
 
I suppose if apple make the mini even lighter these same people who think the ipad 3 is heavy will say the same about the mini too..

I can see the threads now..

"The ipad mini is really heavy especially after using it for 10hrs, the thing really hurts my fingers after awhile, so I'm going to get the new ipad light instead".
 
Um... apps are the same no matter which iPad you use them on. The Appstore doesn't dish out different binaries based upon the model you are using. Once an app gets updated for retina, all users have the retina artwork... even on a non-retina device. All of this time you have been experiencing a placebo effect.

Yup, I was wrong about apps being smaller on the mini. However, I have the excact same thing stored on my mini as my iPad 3, and the mini has 2 GB more free space, so there is an objeective difference in storage use for some reason.
 
Ah, you are probably right. But I compared the iPad 3 and iPad mini with excactly the same content on them, and the mini had 2-3 GB more empty space on it. Could it be due to the OS not being retina?
Yes, that could be a possibility. I don't know the specifics, though, but I can imagine that Apple ships their non-retina iPads with firmware without any high-res Retina images.

Another possibility could be that there is simply more "Other" data on your iPad 3: for example, you could have downloaded more files within the e-mail app (for example PDF-files) that you haven't downloaded (yet) on your iPad mini.
 
I also need every bit of the 128 gig and have been wanting it since the iPad 2 came out. Due to bandwidth caps on my ISP and also traveling and staying in areas that dont have wifi available, the extra memory is great.
I however will wait for 5 since I can be sure that it will also offer 128 gig and I just got the iPad 3 a month before 4 came out. As to when the 5 is coming out I dont think it will be something that can be guessed, just last year I read articles that said iPad would never offer a 128 gig model since iCloud makes it unnecessary. I know that with the current tablet competition heating up there will be a bunch of new products hitting the market this year.
 
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