So, looks like apple will be content to sell last year's technology for a while more. I'm alright with that. I need some numbers to see what I'm losing before I buy old tech, so if you have a Mac Pro with the 1900XT, please list your FPS in windows for the following games at max and moderate settings with this info: CPU speed: xxx Ram: xxx Resolution: xxx OS: (vista or xp) Far Cry Vanguard: Saga of Heroes World of Warcraft LotR Online Command and Conquer EQ2 Oblivion Battlefield 2142 City of Heroes If you don't have all of them, no worries, just post what you got. Basically, if it can run all of these at a sustained 60+ fps I'll probably bite and upgrade my card in a year when the 1900 goes the way of the dinosaur. I'm told though with Vanguard, it absolutely crushes old cards like the x1900..., might be a bad harbinger for the last gens.