I need to format my HD for Windows & Mac..

maccie13

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Sep 8, 2011
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I have a 1TB iOmega harddisk which I bought when I used to use a Windows desktop. Its got movies, music and stuff. Used: 427GB. Available: 573GB. Obviously, I can only read from the HD on my Mac. What I want is to be able to use it to read and write on Mac and Windows platforms. I obviously have to backup the data from my HD onto my Macbook which means its time to bring Time Machine into the business, but I don't know how to operate TM so I need assistance with that. And I will also need some help with Disk Utility after the backing up (with TM) is done.

Big thanks to those who are going to get me through this :)
 

Tander

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Oct 21, 2011
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Hey,

Well, for the writing to both partitions on the HDD use Paragons NTFS for Mac (Not free, but really worth the $$) - It allows read/write to any windows partition.

TM is really easy to use.

What don't you understand about it? also - what do you need to do in Disk utility?

R.
 

shootist

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Dec 8, 2011
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I disagree with the first responder.

Since you have a backup of all the data on that external I would format it EXfat using a Windows PC to do that, as Mac doesn't do it correctly and Windows for some reason can't read drives formatted on a Mac EXfat (at least that has been my experience). That way both Mac and Windows will be able to read and write to that drive.
 

maccie13

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Sep 8, 2011
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Hey,

Well, for the writing to both partitions on the HDD use Paragons NTFS for Mac (Not free, but really worth the $$) - It allows read/write to any windows partition.

TM is really easy to use.

What don't you understand about it? also - what do you need to do in Disk utility?

R.
What is Paragons NTFS?

Actually, I wanted to back up the data from my HD to my Macbook and I can accomplish that by simple copy-paste. I thought that TM would do it for me but after some online reading I found out that TM is used to do the exact opposite job i.e. backup the data from my Macbook to another disk (external). So, I wanted to basically get rid of this confusion :)

And in Disk Utility I wanted to know which format and partition scheme to apply for the Windows partition but Shootist just answered that query..

I disagree with the first responder.

Since you have a backup of all the data on that external I would format it EXfat using a Windows PC to do that, as Mac doesn't do it correctly and Windows for some reason can't read drives formatted on a Mac EXfat (at least that has been my experience). That way both Mac and Windows will be able to read and write to that drive.
So you suggest that I do formatting entirely on a Windows PC and not on a Mac?
 

shootist

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Dec 8, 2011
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And in Disk Utility I wanted to know which format and partition scheme to apply for the Windows partition but Shootist just answered that query..



So you suggest that I do formatting entirely on a Windows PC and not on a Mac?
Yes because Apples, Macs, implementation of EXfat is screwy and every drive that I have formatted EXfat on a Mac is not readable on any PC. Doing the same formatting to EXfat on a PC and both PC and Mac can read and write to those drives.
 

dusk007

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I formatted exFAT with DiskUtility and never had any problems. I don't access the data very much from Windows though. Yet the few times never seemed to cause any problems.
 

GGJstudios

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Format A Hard Drive Using Disk Utility (which is in your /Applications/Utilities folder)

Choose the appropriate format:

HFS+ (Hierarchical File System, a.k.a. Mac OS Extended (Journaled) Don't use case-sensitive)

NTFS (Windows NT File System)
  • Read/Write NTFS from native Windows.
  • Read only NTFS from native Mac OS X
    [*]To Read/Write/Format NTFS from Mac OS X, here are some alternatives:
    • For Mac OS X 10.4 or later (32 or 64-bit), install Paragon (approx $20) (Best Choice for Lion)
    • For 32-bit Mac OS X, install NTFS-3G for Mac OS X (free) (does not work in 64-bit mode)
    • For 64-bit Snow Leopard, read this: MacFUSE for 64-bit Snow Leopard
    • Some have reported problems using Tuxera (approx $36).
    • Native NTFS support can be enabled in Snow Leopard and Lion, but is not advisable, due to instability.
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support NTFS
  • Maximum file size: 16 TB
  • Maximum volume size: 256TB
  • You can use this format if you routinely share a drive with multiple Windows systems.

exFAT (FAT64)
  • Supported in Mac OS X only in 10.6.5 or later.
  • Not all Windows versions support exFAT. See disadvantages.
  • exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table)
  • AirPort Extreme (802.11n) and Time Capsule do not support exFAT
  • Maximum file size: 16 EiB
  • Maximum volume size: 64 ZiB
  • You can use this format if it is supported by all computers with which you intend to share the drive. See "disadvantages" for details.

FAT32 (File Allocation Table)
  • Read/Write FAT32 from both native Windows and native Mac OS X.
    [*]Maximum file size: 4GB.
  • Maximum volume size: 2TB
  • You can use this format if you share the drive between Mac OS X and Windows computers and have no files larger than 4GB.
 

maccie13

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Sep 8, 2011
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I just installed MacFUSE.pkg but I dont know what to do now.. Tried to delete a file on my external HD but fail! Do I dig into this MacFUSE thing or just take a safe route and format it using Windows/Disk Utility? I'm thinking I'll try using DU first and, if that doesn't work I'll try it with Windows... Btw, there is no option of NTFS in DU. What's MS-DOS (FAT) good for?
And what partitioning scheme should I use? GUID Partition Table or Apple Partition Map or Master Boot Record?
 

GGJstudios

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I just installed MacFUSE.pkg but I dont know what to do now.. Tried to delete a file on my external HD but fail! Do I dig into this MacFUSE thing or just take a safe route and format it using Windows/Disk Utility? I'm thinking I'll try using DU first and, if that doesn't work I'll try it with Windows... Btw, there is no option of NTFS in DU. What's MS-DOS (FAT) good for?
And what partitioning scheme should I use? GUID Partition Table or Apple Partition Map or Master Boot Record?
Did you read my last post? The links provide all the information you need.
 

DrNick8404

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Ive never had issues with FAT32. In Afghanistan everyone had different computers and FAT32 worked great between macs and pc's to transfer music porn/movies
 

GGJstudios

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Ive never had issues with FAT32. In Afghanistan everyone had different computers and FAT32 worked great between macs and pc's to transfer music porn/movies
The primary problem with FAT32 is no file can be larger than 4GB. For some, that's not an issue; for others, it is.
 

Allan54

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Exfat I have found works great. However for Windows machines running XP you need to download and install a patch from MS to enable exFat support.
 

GGJstudios

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I did read it but I still dont know if MacFUSE will provide a sure solution. From what I read it seems unlikely. So should I dig into it or not is the question..
As I said in my post:
  • For Mac OS X 10.4 or later (32 or 64-bit), install Paragon (approx $20) (Best Choice for Lion)
 

maccie13

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Sep 8, 2011
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I've got an external USB drive formatted ExFat by my Lion MBP and it's readable by any windows PC it's plugged into.
My 4GB USB works (reads/writes) on a Mac and Windows without having formatted it. So whats the difference between USBs and HDs?
 

GGJstudios

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My 4GB USB works (reads/writes) on a Mac and Windows without having formatted it.
That's because it came pre-formatted, most likely as FAT32. All drives need to be formatted before they can work with a particular OS. Most come pre-formatted as FAT32, NTFS or HFS+, but the user can change the format, if they wish.