I need to view the messages on my wifes old phone. Please read and help.

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  1. NeedingAnswers macrumors newbie

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    So I'm going to be completely honest here, and maybe to my detriment. I may get deleted or hammered with critism, I don't know.
    But I need to seek some answers.

    So I think my wife has been having an affair, I don't know 100% but I found a very damning email after I became supicious. I'm not looking to hurt her, just looking for answers.

    I want to find out for sure before I ask her as she could still at this point deny it and twist the email. I also want to find out
    how far it has gone and for how long. I don't want to hurt her, I still care about her, I just need answers.

    I have her iCloud and iTunes password and her email password, but don't know her pincode.

    She bought a new iPhone 6 yesterday and the old one is still in the house and not been restored. She may do that tomorrow or may give the
    phone away but until she does, I have a chance to get to it.

    Is there a way I can view the text messages on there without her knowing? I want to find out for sure and then give her the
    opportunity to come clean on her own terms, making it as easy as possible for her. If she doesn't then I have proof
    and we will need to talk and try and come up with a solution, even if that means divorce, I am prepared.

    I have seen this: http://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/news/a41783/how-to-hack-iphone-without-passcode/
    and a couple of others that are similar.

    I have heard about DFU recovery that I could do on her old phone. Will this send her a notification to her new phone to say that I am
    doing it? She could then delete messages and I don't actually want her to know I am doing it.
    Is there anyway of getting passed the two part authentification code thing? Or finding out if she has the two part authentification on or off?
    If it is off then I can do it on my PC.

    Any ideas?

    I'm really desperate to know and this is tearing me apart.

    Any help is very much greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Givmeabrek macrumors 68030

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    You can check if two step authentication is on here: https://appleid.apple.com/#!&page=signin
    Chances are it's not on and it should be much easier to guess/hack into the account.

    The hack to bypass the passcode doesn't work on the newest firmware versions. DFU restore will wipe out the phone, so that will not help anyway. You could try to guess at the code but after about 10 mistakes it will erase the phone. Be careful and good luck.
     
  3. NeedingAnswers thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I just tried the link you posted and tested it on my own phone and to log in it asked me for the two part code and sent a message to my phone so if hers is on she will get the same on her new phone.
    Does it come as on as standard or do you have to set it to on yourself?
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    Also, if I do a DFU and then restore the phone from her icloud will it send a notification to her new phone?
     
  4. Givmeabrek macrumors 68030

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    Two part authentication is not standard so it's probably not on. Pretty sure it won't send a notification otherwise. If you want to be sure then set up your phone the same way and try it out.
     
  5. motulist macrumors 601

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    If you strongly suspect that she's cheated on you, and you also have no faith that she'd be honest with you on what she says anyway, then you already have the answer you need about your relationship.
     
  6. Dented macrumors 6502a

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    This.

    OP - can you honestly say that if you were somehow successful in hacking this phone (without being detected, which is nigh on impossible btw), and you did NOT find anything directly incriminating, that would be the end of it? Trust restored, relationship back on track?

    OR would you simply conclude that she had deleted anything incriminating and still believe she could/would/has been having this affair?

    If the latter is true it really doesn't matter what happens with the phone. Rightly or not, trust is gone, and without that your marriage is terminal, unless you get together and work on it.
     
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  8. rugmankc Contributor

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    If a husband and wife need to keep their passwords/pins from each other, there are problems already in the marriage. My wife and I share all that. If something would happen to either of us, we would want each other to be able to access the iPhones. iPad, laptop same way.
     
  9. Apple fanboy macrumors P6

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    This.
    I couldn't possibly imagine not giving my wife access to my devices and vice verser.
    Trust is one of the foundations of a good marriage.
     
  10. HallStevenson macrumors regular

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    Tell her you are going to wipe the phone and sell it on Craiglist or give it to a friend and that you need her PIN to do it. If there's nothing for her to worry about, she'll give it to you. If she balks, well....

    You also realize that she may delete any incriminating texts and you'd find nothing anyway ?
     
  11. Infiniverse48, Aug 13, 2017
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    Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502

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    Best thing to do is just ask her and gauge her reaction.
     
  12. off_piste macrumors 6502a

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    Not necessarily true. If nothing is going on then it could cause severe resentment. I've seen it.
     
  13. Thebeat07 macrumors regular

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    You need to follow her without her knowing. Can't rely a relationship on a cell phone.
     
  14. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    If she has backed up on a computer you can dive into the backup with one of many tools to look at messages.
     
  15. deany macrumors 68020

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    You need passcode for that, surely?
     
  16. maflynn Moderator

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    [MOD NOTE]
    Closing this thread down.
    Asking for help in hacking another person's phone is not something we condone here, regardless of the backstory.

    OP, I'm sorry to hear about your issues, my advice is to contact a lawyer and get advice on how to proceed.
     
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