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I ordered 32GB Ram on Amazon today

EdwardSmith36 said:
From 8 GB to 32 GB will be a great experience for you. Hope you 'll get your delivery soon..!
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Thanks, I think Friday, maybe Thursday! Hard to believe that I used to sell Ram by the megabyte at Egghead Software back in 1992 for $50 per MEGABYTE! Yikes! I just bought 32 THOUSAND megabytes!
 
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Cape Dave said:
Thanks, I think Friday, maybe Thursday! Hard to believe that I used to sell Ram by the megabyte at Egghead Software back in 1992 for $50 per MEGABYTE! Yikes! I just bought 32 THOUSAND megabytes!
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That's nothing mate. I used to sell NCR Tower kit back in the 80's and our ram was £4,000 per megabyte. Our biggest competitor was McDonell Douglas but we were the new upstart seriously undercutting their prices. They charged £20,000 per megabyte!

Amusing to think that your amount of ram (were their system able to support that amount, which or course it could not), would have cost £256 million pounds :)
 
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Chippy99 said:
That's nothing mate. I used to sell NCR Tower kit back in the 80's and our ram was £4,000 per megabyte. Our biggest competitor was McDonell Douglas but we were the new upstart seriously undercutting their prices. They charged £20,000 per megabyte!

Amusing to think that your amount of ram (were their system able to support that amount, which or course it could not), would have cost £256 million pounds :)
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You might appreciate this:

http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm
 
Cape Dave said:
You might appreciate this:

http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm
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Interesting.

That table is actually rather conservative though in it's estimation (or recollection) of prices. As I say, back in the late 80's McDonnel Douglas (who were in the computer business at the time with their Reality and Sequoia mini computers) used to charge £20,000 per megabyte for ram here in the UK.

That chart has prices at that time being $300 per megabyte.
 
Chippy99 said:
Interesting.

That table is actually rather conservative though in it's estimation (or recollection) of prices. As I say, back in the late 80's McDonnel Douglas (who were in the computer business at the time with their Reality and Sequoia mini computers) used to charge £20,000 per megabyte for ram here in the UK.

That chart has prices at that time being $300 per megabyte.
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Sounds like your company and McDonnell Douglas was significantly overpriced, as you could get RAM from $150-500/MB in the late 80s from JDR.
 
I bought this RAM as well, will it work on the newest 5k MAC with an i7
 
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Cape Dave said:
Thanks, I think Friday, maybe Thursday! Hard to believe that I used to sell Ram by the megabyte at Egghead Software back in 1992 for $50 per MEGABYTE! Yikes! I just bought 32 THOUSAND megabytes!
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Dave you are my hero. I say this because you brought back really good memories for me about those days and in particular Egghead. I remember those days well, when there were actual choices on word processors, spreadsheets and the like. It was those days where fun and innovation kept popping up before Microsoft fully nailed the coffin shut on small companies that put out some impressive products. Those for me, were great days with names like Borland, Word Perfect, Corel, Lotus, Quatro Pro filled the shelves. I also recall the limited but interesting hardware sold at Egghead including hard drives on a "card" that would fit in an ISA slot. Oh and a few niche products like Stacker, QEMM, Lantastic. Dave I haven't thought about Egghead in years. Thanks for the reminder.
 
phrehdd said:
Dave you are my hero. I say this because you brought back really good memories for me about those days and in particular Egghead. I remember those days well, when there were actual choices on word processors, spreadsheets and the like. It was those days where fun and innovation kept popping up before Microsoft fully nailed the coffin shut on small companies that put out some impressive products. Those for me, were great days with names like Borland, Word Perfect, Corel, Lotus, Quatro Pro filled the shelves. I also recall the limited but interesting hardware sold at Egghead including hard drives on a "card" that would fit in an ISA slot. Oh and a few niche products like Stacker, QEMM, Lantastic. Dave I haven't thought about Egghead in years. Thanks for the reminder.
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LOL, you are most welcome. I remember all the software you mentioned well. I was "online" at that time with local Bulletin Boards, CompuServe and AOL 1.0, which was a real taste of the Internet, before the Internet :) I had one of those hard drives as my first hard drive. Yeah, the hardware was limited, but the software was truly awesome :) QEMM, I sure had not thought of that software in a very long time :)
 
Cape Dave said:
LOL, you are most welcome. I remember all the software you mentioned well. I was "online" at that time with local Bulletin Boards, CompuServe and AOL 1.0, which was a real taste of the Internet, before the Internet :) I had one of those hard drives as my first hard drive. Yeah, the hardware was limited, but the software was truly awesome :) QEMM, I sure had not thought of that software in a very long time :)
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Grrrrr. You had to mention BBS. I belonged to a few and worked as a SysOp for one of them in my area. I gather DLX, Galacticom, Lighthouse, and other BBS software should ring a bell (and of course, Wildcat).
 
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phrehdd said:
Grrrrr. You had to mention BBS. I belonged to a few and worked as a SysOp for one of them in my area. I gather DLX, Galacticom, Lighthouse, and other BBS software should ring a bell (and of course, Wildcat).
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Laughing out loud! At that time, it was so early in my computing career, I actually had no idea how BB's worked. I was pretty sure they were simply magic. But Lighthouse and Galacticom kind of sort of ring a bell. Funny how my very first purchase (probably most of my first paycheck at Egghead) included the venerable Eight in One software and a 2400 Bps modem :)
 
You guys are mere babies. When I started out with computers, there was no internet (and no CompuServe nor anything like it). In fact there were no PC's either come to think about it.

I typed Fortran code onto coding sheets, which got translated to punched cards and having been run, came back a few days later with a syntax error in line 987, so it hadn't even compiled, let alone run. You learned how to write bug-free code back then! I later worked on a CDC Cyber 6600 mainframe that was a 60 bit machine with what equates nowadays or just under 1MB of ram and with 300 users was the largest interactive computer system in the world.

Then we had the advent of the microprocessor and everything that followed, the plethora of Zylog Z80 and Rockwell 6502 based systems, and finally Intel started to dominate with their 8088 and later 8086 based systems upon which the PC as we know it was based.

It's been quite a ride.
 
Chippy99 said:
You guys are mere babies. When I started out with computers, there was no internet (and no CompuServe nor anything like it). In fact there were no PC's either come to think about it.

I typed Fortran code onto coding sheets, which got translated to punched cards and having been run, came back a few days later with a syntax error in line 987, so it hadn't even compiled, let alone run. You learned how to write bug-free code back then! I later worked on a CDC Cyber 6600 mainframe that was a 60 bit machine with what equates nowadays or just under 1MB of ram and with 300 users was the largest interactive computer system in the world.

Then we had the advent of the microprocessor and everything that followed, the plethora of Zylog Z80 and Rockwell 6502 based systems, and finally Intel started to dominate with their 8088 and later 8086 based systems upon which the PC as we know it was based.

It's been quite a ride.
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You win, for sure :) And yes, what a ride!
 
Chippy99 said:
You guys are mere babies. When I started out with computers, there was no internet (and no CompuServe nor anything like it). In fact there were no PC's either come to think about it.

I typed Fortran code onto coding sheets, which got translated to punched cards and having been run, came back a few days later with a syntax error in line 987, so it hadn't even compiled, let alone run. You learned how to write bug-free code back then! I later worked on a CDC Cyber 6600 mainframe that was a 60 bit machine with what equates nowadays or just under 1MB of ram and with 300 users was the largest interactive computer system in the world.

Then we had the advent of the microprocessor and everything that followed, the plethora of Zylog Z80 and Rockwell 6502 based systems, and finally Intel started to dominate with their 8088 and later 8086 based systems upon which the PC as we know it was based.

It's been quite a ride.
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Yep. I honestly prefer those days in many ways. However, we are still blessed with some very cool stuff of today and I'll leave Fortran, PLANK et al back to college days. BTW punch cards always made good bookmarks. Now you have me thinking, I still have in storage a novel little Timex-Sinclair Z-80 computer (tiny little box with a membrane keyboard that one hooks up to a TV).
 
I have posted this photo before but it seems also apropos here, it is of my dad when he worked at Sperry Rand...
 

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phrehdd said:
Now you have me thinking, I still have in storage a novel little Timex-Sinclair Z-80 computer (tiny little box with a membrane keyboard that one hooks up to a TV).
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A proper computer ;-)

I can't remember whether it was the ZX-80 or the ZX-81, but either way, some geniuses wrote a chess program for it, that ran in 1K of ram. All the graphics, all the data and logic in 1k.

Now *that* is an impressive bit of coding!
 
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gjm87 said:
I bought this RAM as well, will it work on the newest 5k MAC with an i7
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Should be. But:

2014 5K model: DDR3L, 1600, CL11 is recommended
2015 5K model: DDR3L, 1866, CL13 is recommended

(from Crucial's website)

Skylake can handle higher clocked DDR3 => little bit more performance, the CPU itself has little benefits compared to the old Haswell.

I'm not sure what Apple itself uses (those standard 2 x 4 GB modules). If they are 1600 MHz and you just
want to expand with e.g. 2 x 4 GB or 2 x 8 GB take CL11, 1600 MHz modules. If you want faster or 32 GB, take the CL13, 1866 MHz modules.
 
Cool. Now good luck filling up all that memory ;) I've got 24GB and whatever I do, the memory pressure seldom exceeds 30% in iStat menus :) And that includes virtual machines and many open tabs.
 
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