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I really hope the new iPad Air 3 does not get a 4K screen, or any screen resolution upgrade. There is absolutely no reason to increase the resolution. The current resolution is more than enough for perfect clarity. Adding anymore resolution is just a CPU/GPU resource hog. iOS is already laggy enough as it is. I just want more speed. I don't care about a 4K screen that I won't see the difference of unless I look for it that's eating up more resources and cost of the tablet.
 
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iOS is pretty fast for me. What application lags for you?

It's weird that you're making such a specific plea though. What makes you think the iPad Air 3 will have a 4K screen?

I still see pixels at 260PPI, although you have to look pretty carefully. I think a minor bump to the iPad Pro's current resolution would be nice (effective pixel density 352PPI) but it's not really essential. I can definitely tell the sharpness difference when I compare any iOS device against the 6+ though (or really just about any Android flagship device these days)....
 
I can clearly see the pixels on my iPad Air 2, and I actually hope they double the resolution, so it will be 4k... That an oled-display and smaller bezels will give you a perfect device
 
I can clearly see the pixels on my iPad Air 2, and I actually hope they double the resolution, so it will be 4k... That an oled-display and smaller bezels will give you a perfect device

Doubling (which I assume you mean quadrupling i.e. 4096 x 3072) is pretty extreme. The iPhone 6+ has ~400 PPI. You're talking about 520 PPI. Can you really see the pixels on the iPhone 6+ without squinting?
 
I need a better screen, and it's the main thing I'm hoping for. The 6 Plus has 401ppi, while the Air only has 264ppi. That is beyond noticeable to me. I want at least 401 in the Air 3.
 
iPads have gotten like 10x faster since they started using the current resolution. I hope they go for screens that can display 4k on all their devices. It's the future.

A 3840x2400 MacBook would be glorious.
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Doubling (which I assume you mean quadrupling i.e. 4096 x 3072) is pretty extreme. The iPhone 6+ has ~400 PPI. You're talking about 520 PPI. Can you really see the pixels on the iPhone 6+ without squinting?

Doesn't matter to me if you can see the pixels. We want to be at the point where you'll never ever see a pixel even if you get an inch away.

As paper becomes more and more obsolete we should be expecting our displays to look more and more like magazine print. 264 PPI isn't good enough. 520 would be amazing. I hope the iPhone gets 4k too.
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people still speaking about PPI without really understanding what it is ...

You are speaking about different screen sizes, supposedly watched from different distances, so you don't have to compare iPhone 's PPI with iPad 's PPI.

I use tablets and iPhones at the same distance... Trust me, I know what it means.
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"I hope technology doesn't advance beyond what I have now...because reasons"
These are the same people that still wish the iPhone was as thick as the 4. :eek:
 
iOS is pretty fast for me. What application lags for you?

It's weird that you're making such a specific plea though. What makes you think the iPad Air 3 will have a 4K screen?

I still see pixels at 260PPI, although you have to look pretty carefully. I think a minor bump to the iPad Pro's current resolution would be nice (effective pixel density 352PPI) but it's not really essential. I can definitely tell the sharpness difference when I compare any iOS device against the 6+ though (or really just about any Android flagship device these days)....

My iPad 4 lags like molasses on iOS 9. My 13'' rMBP noticeably lags with animations to the point I am using and looking at the horrible TN non retina 13'' MBP because it never lags.

Until Apple gets their **** together and get their software optimized right, going higher resolution than the current retina is just a bad idea performance wise. The current retina screen is more than clear enough. Can I see the pixels if I hold it real close? Yes, I have perfect close range vision. But I don't hold my devices close enough to see the pixels on the current screen.
 
people still speaking about PPI without really understanding what it is ...

You are speaking about different screen sizes, supposedly watched from different distances, so you don't have to compare iPhone 's PPI with iPad 's PPI.
But then again YOU aren't the one with special X-Men hyper-vision. ;) For them, anything less than 1500ppi is a pixelated abomination.
 
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But then again YOU aren't the one with special X-Men hyper-vision. ;) For them, anything less than 1500ppi is a pixelated abomination.

Because numbers!

Maybe my eyes are bad, but I cant tell the difference between my ipad pro and iphone 6+. They both look completely smooth to me.
 
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It's complete overkill. Cramming more pixels onto the screen doesn't solve any existing problem or shortcoming. So why do it? The screen is great as is. How about better chassis and screen sound proofing/isolation so the thing doesn't vibrate with any type of volume levels? Maybe a tad sturdier. Better battery life. Ya know,stuff that actually makes a difference with the user experience?

Some touch updates. Pencil support. Better speakers. I dunno. Lots of things they could do that would have a real impact on usability. Screen pixel is NOT one of them. 4K on a ten inch screen? Cmon guys.... As useles as boobs on a bull. Or a football bat. :)
 
I use tablets and iPhones at the same distance... Trust me, I know what it means.


if you use a 4.7" display and a 9.7" at the same distance than not, I can't trust you because there's a problem with you ... o_O
Yes, you CAN use them at the same distance, but not at a distance where you can see pixels.

I can barely see pixels on an
iPhone if I try hard at a very short distance, and it's not usable that way. An iPad ? even less usable at that distance.
Unless you really want to ruin your eyesight....

But then again YOU aren't the one with special X-Men hyper-vision. ;) For them, anything less than 1500ppi is a pixelated abomination.

Nope, I've lost my ticket to Krypton last Christmas :D
 
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My iPad Mini 4 lags... it's just weak. 6S Plus lags in some animations (3D Touch). iOS is not as smooth as it used to be.
 
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My iPad Mini 4 lags... it's just weak. 6S Plus lags in some animations (3D Touch). iOS is not as smooth as it used to be.
An iPad Mini 4 lags? It's virtually the same internals as an Air 2. My experience with the Air 2 has been stellar, but I'm not attempting to deny that you are experiencing what you are experiencing. Perhaps it is a matter of perspective.

I'd love to see a video of an iPad Mini 4 that is considered to be lagging and another iOS device (regardless of iOS version) that doesn't.
 
My iPad Mini 4 lags... it's just weak. 6S Plus lags in some animations (3D Touch). iOS is not as smooth as it used to be.

What are you doing that makes your Mini 4 lag? I used to get the occasional stutter in the app switcher and search using iOS 9.1, but since 9.2 it's incredibly smooth.
 
My iPad 4 lags like molasses on iOS 9. My 13'' rMBP noticeably lags with animations to the point I am using and looking at the horrible TN non retina 13'' MBP because it never lags.

Until Apple gets their **** together and get their software optimized right, going higher resolution than the current retina is just a bad idea performance wise. The current retina screen is more than clear enough. Can I see the pixels if I hold it real close? Yes, I have perfect close range vision. But I don't hold my devices close enough to see the pixels on the current screen.

I thought I was imagining. I had a 2011 macbook air on 10.7 and I just upgraded to a 2015 macbook air and it seems so much slower. My iPhone is beyond slow but I don't have $1000+ to upgrade.
 
The Air 2 has the A8X and it's twice as fast then the A8 found in the Mini 4.
A8X is close to the A9 chip in the 6s.

Neither the benchmarks nor Apple's own numbers suggests that the A8X is TWICE as fast as the A8. The difference isn't THAT pronounced.
 
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