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AlixSPQR

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I'm aware that 8 GB RAM as of now fits most people's needs. And that the Si/ARM SoC technology isn't as RAM dependent as x86.

But macs are so expensive that I want them to last for regular use for a very long time. We know nothing of that now.

I have had my 2012 mini since 2013 and it works just fine. But, then, I installed 16 GB RAM immediately, and feel secure with that. 8 GB RAM for the future, not upgradeble, no way.

If the entry level gets 16 GB of RAM, and today's prices continue, I'll buy one. But not otherwise.

What do you think?
 

MandiMac

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Buy when you need and what you need. There's nothing like future-proofing, so beware of over-spending on what you might never need in the long run (or before updating to another machine, that is). That's what I've learned in the past years :)
 

arian71

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I'm aware that 8 GB RAM as of now fits most people's needs. And that the Si/ARM SoC technology isn't as RAM dependent as x86.

But macs are so expensive that I want them to last for regular use for a very long time. We know nothing of that now.

I have had my 2012 mini since 2013 and it works just fine. But, then, I installed 16 GB RAM immediately, and feel secure with that. 8 GB RAM for the future, not upgradeble, no way.

If the entry level gets 16 GB of RAM, and today's prices continue, I'll buy one. But not otherwise.

What do you think?
interesting topic ,we need more 8 v 16 gb ram discussion as barely those surface on this forum, jump people
 

Lihp8270

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It’s pretty simple. If you need 16gb of RAM buy 16gb of ram.

If you don’t wish to pay apple prices. Then buy an alternative.

Don’t take that the wrong way, I don’t need huge power. But I need multi monitor support but I refuse to pay the premium just for multiple monitors. So it’s a no go for me.
 

AlixSPQR

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It’s pretty simple. If you need 16gb of RAM buy 16gb of ram.
If you don’t wish to pay apple prices. Then buy an alternative.

Don’t take that the wrong way, I don’t need huge power. But I need multi monitor support but I refuse to pay the premium just for multiple monitors. So it’s a no go for me.
No, I won't pay extra for 16 GB RAM. I know it's simple to do that.
 

russell_314

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No, I won't pay extra for 16 GB RAM. I know it's simple to do that.
You’re paying for the the components when you buy a product. I don’t understand why you’re upset that people have a choice not to pay for 16 GB of RAM

If the base model gets discontinued for a higher spec model then the price has to increase. This is what’s about to happen with the iPhone 14. If Ford discontinued the base model Mustang then the GT becomes the new “base model”. Do you think Ford will start selling the GT for the price of the old base model?

Also yes in time RAM will slowly increase as it becomes cheaper but not till it becomes the new minimum requirement. Just like we had 4 GB forever and 8 GB was the “upgrade”. Eventually we’ll have a 16 GB base model but by then you’ll likely feel the need for 24 or 32 GB.
 

AlixSPQR

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You’re paying for the the components when you buy a product. I don’t understand why you’re upset that people have a choice not to pay for 16 GB of RAM

If the base model gets discontinued for a higher spec model then the price has to increase. This is what’s about to happen with the iPhone 14. If Ford discontinued the base model Mustang then the GT becomes the new “base model”. Do you think Ford will start selling the GT for the price of the old base model?

Also yes in time RAM will slowly increase as it becomes cheaper but not till it becomes the new minimum requirement. Just like we had 4 GB forever and 8 GB was the “upgrade”.
Eventually we’ll have a 16 GB base model
but by then you’ll likely feel the need for 24 or 32 GB.
I’ll be waiting for that, then.
 

CraigJDuffy

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I'm aware that 8 GB RAM as of now fits most people's needs. And that the Si/ARM SoC technology isn't as RAM dependent as x86.

But macs are so expensive that I want them to last for regular use for a very long time. We know nothing of that now.

I have had my 2012 mini since 2013 and it works just fine. But, then, I installed 16 GB RAM immediately, and feel secure with that. 8 GB RAM for the future, not upgradeble, no way.

If the entry level gets 16 GB of RAM, and today's prices continue, I'll buy one. But not otherwise.

What do you think?
I’ve got an 8gb Mac mini. It’s fine. Modern machines have “infinite” memory thanks to swap anyway 🤷‍♀️
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

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I'm aware that 8 GB RAM as of now fits most people's needs. And that the Si/ARM SoC technology isn't as RAM dependent as x86.

But macs are so expensive that I want them to last for regular use for a very long time. We know nothing of that now.

I have had my 2012 mini since 2013 and it works just fine. But, then, I installed 16 GB RAM immediately, and feel secure with that. 8 GB RAM for the future, not upgradeble, no way.

If the entry level gets 16 GB of RAM, and today's prices continue, I'll buy one. But not otherwise.

What do you think?
Then don't buy one with 8 gb of RAM. The 14/16 inch Macbook Pros have 16 gbs as base spec, and the Mac Studio has 32 gbs base spec. Or just buy an M1 Macbook Air/Mac Mini with 16 gbs of RAM. I did last year.
 

GuruZac

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More said: Not base desktop either.
What's the point of your thread? Apple offers 16GB of RAM option but you don't want to pay for it, so you're not buying anything until it's 16GB of RAM base...but what you're really saying is you don't want to pay up for the base MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM. If you really need 16GB of RAM but don't want the MacBook Pro then pay the $200 extra in the Air or iMac or whatever.
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

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I’d be happy to buy a new mini with 16 GB RAM for what a base model costs today.
Then go buy one right now. The Apple Refurb store has several M1 Macbook Airs and Minis with 16 gbs of RAM for what a base model costs today. There's also the Education and Government discounts that grant you that as well. https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished

Look I just found two right now https://www.apple.com/shop/product/G12N1LL/A/Refurbished-Mac-mini-Apple-M1-Chip-with-8‑Core-CPU-and-8‑Core-GPU?fnode=17b8e3448b2798d1ce6ac3e1f4ef8436727dd3d520973699174aa5e6d01a622c96bca00b7b663989828417f82f1ee7b7671600d855c411dd2bc0bd60e66259f8cbca38b3cca2b480d32dd1a1d70ed647 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...0bd60e66259f8cbca38b3cca2b480d32dd1a1d70ed647
 

wonderings

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For the premium prices Apple charges I do think the base RAM should be bumped to 16 gigs. They know people will keep paying though for upgraded machines with 16 gigs of RAM or more. So if they were to remove the base 8 they would lose money. I seriously doubt there is a huge price difference on the backend between 8 gigs and 16 gigs. Apple is slow to do this, they did this for ages with the 64 gig iPhone, that storage option was way past over due to being bumped up to 128 gig.
 

boak

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For the premium prices Apple charges I do think the base RAM should be bumped to 16 gigs. They know people will keep paying though for upgraded machines with 16 gigs of RAM or more. So if they were to remove the base 8 they would lose money. I seriously doubt there is a huge price difference on the backend between 8 gigs and 16 gigs. Apple is slow to do this, they did this for ages with the 64 gig iPhone, that storage option was way past over due to being bumped up to 128 gig.
Price discrimination to maximise profit.
 

AlixSPQR

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For the premium prices Apple charges I do think the base RAM should be bumped to 16 gigs. They know people will keep paying though for upgraded machines with 16 gigs of RAM or more. So if they were to remove the base 8 they would lose money. I seriously doubt there is a huge price difference on the backend between 8 gigs and 16 gigs. Apple is slow to do this, they did this for ages with the 64 gig iPhone, that storage option was way past over due to being bumped up to 128 gig.
I totally agree! Some people must have been offended when they suddenly got much more for their money… ;)
 
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