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An iPhone 8S would make sense this year as one last hurrah for home button users and to be the true "lower priced" entry level iPhone.

Nope. Nothing suggests that for 2019, the iPhone 8 will be the new ‘entry’ level iPhone, moving forward the physical home button is done for, Apple has migrated towards an all display with Face ID and purportedly using touch ID under the display at some point.
 
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I find FaceID just as fast as TouchID, it even works when lying in bed for me. TouchID was always inconsistent, and very inconvenient when fingers were slightly damp.
 
I find FaceID just as fast as TouchID, it even works when lying in bed for me. TouchID was always inconsistent, and very inconvenient when fingers were slightly damp.

‘Fast’ in terms of unlocking, I would agree with, however, the consistency when laying down, that I would disagree with entirely. Face IDs biggest downfall is when typically someone’s laying down or the phone is on a flat angle where it has difficulty reading the users face.

But what I don’t understand, how was touch ID ‘always inconsistent’, I know you mentioned it was inconvenient when you have damp fingers, which can be true, but always inconsistent? Seems a bit exaggerated. I’ve owned almost every iPhone that’s offered touch ID and I’ve never had it be inconsistent. There are other considering factors that you have to consider, like your fingerprint could be posing that’s causing the ‘inconvenience.’
 
I must agree with @Relentless Power , they will most likely just discontinue the 8 next year, and that will be the end of the old design.

I do not believe any iPhone SE 2 rumors anymore.
 
I really miss touch id. So sick of moving phone to face and swiping up. And faceid being 10x slower than touch id.
I think youre exaggerating. Face ID on iOS 13 is blazingly fast and maybe as fast as second gen Touch ID. But even on iOS 12, it's still quick enough and the difference is less than 1 second. What are you going to do with the extra 1 second you get with Touch ID?
 
I think youre exaggerating. Face ID on iOS 13 is blazingly fast and maybe as fast as second gen Touch ID. But even on iOS 12, it's still quick enough and the difference is less than 1 second. What are you going to do with the extra 1 second you get with Touch ID?
With that thinking then it could as well take 5 seconds, I mean what are you going to do with extra 5 seconds? It’s almost nothing.
The point is that technology should move forward and not backwards, if Face ID is slower, is not as quick and requires specific angles to work compared to Touch ID, then it’s not an upgrade but a downgrade.
 
With that thinking then it could as well take 5 seconds, I mean what are you going to do with extra 5 seconds? It’s almost nothing.
The point is that technology should move forward and not backwards, if Face ID is slower, is not as quick and requires specific angles to work compared to Touch ID, then it’s not an upgrade but a downgrade.
It took two years for a second gen Touch ID and two years after Apple announced Face ID they're going to make it even faster on the new iPhones. So I don't see where it's going backwards.
 
Apple may introduce a new model with traditional case like SE when they stop to sell the iPhone 8 (the last model with Fingerprint) in the Apple Store officially. This means that a new model like that may be introduced in Fall 2020.
 
An iPhone 8S would make sense this year as one last hurrah for home button users and to be the true "lower priced" entry level iPhone.


I wish. Plus throw in a headphone jack and I am upgrading! It would be nice if one of their models was a retro version with better under the hood specs. I know this is just fanciful thinking. Luckily I love my 8+ so I will just hold onto that for awhile longer.
 
It took two years for a second gen Touch ID and two years after Apple announced Face ID they're going to make it even faster on the new iPhones. So I don't see where it's going backwards.
I basically just told you where it was going backwards and you totally ignore it. We still don’t know if Face ID is any faster on newer iPhones so we can’t even put that in the table.
 
An iPhone 8S would make sense this year as one last hurrah for home button users and to be the true "lower priced" entry level iPhone.

I also think so. March 2020. Refreshed iPhone 8 with A13 chip and 128 GB storage at a lower price point. Would like that. iPhone 8 is an amazing phone. I still love my 8 Plus. Best iPhone i ever had. Yes, the Xs Max would be nicer but i'm not going to pay that ridiculous amount for the Xs Max 256 GB. You can only get that if you live in the US. Just take a look what Apple wants for that phone in Canada and in most European Countries.
 
I also think so. March 2020. Refreshed iPhone 8 with A13 chip and 128 GB storage at a lower price point. Would like that. iPhone 8 is an amazing phone. I still love my 8 Plus. Best iPhone i ever had. Yes, the Xs Max would be nicer but i'm not going to pay that ridiculous amount for the Xs Max 256 GB. You can only get that if you live in the US. Just take a look what Apple wants for that phone in Canada and in most European Countries.
Where do you live?
 
Where do you live?

Germany. You don't even want to know. Xr 64 GB is ~ 940 $. Xs 64 GB is ~ 1300$ and Xs Max 64 GB is ~ 1400$. 256 GB Xs Max you can get for ~ 1570 USD. I refuse to pay almost 1600 $ for a phone. 256 GB 8 Plus was "only" ~ 1060 $. See my problem? I think it's 849 $ in the US. I would love to pay US prices. But our prices already have the 19% VAT included. You also have to add the sales tax if you buy in the US. But it's no where near 19%. I think the highest is 9,5 / 10%.
 
Apple needs to push the iPhone 11 & 11 Pro aggressively so it's time for that old design to be retired permanently.

This is the third year for the new ‘X design’, there’s nothing they need to push aggressively, will they market the new camera heavily? Absolutely. But the new design is already heavily marketed through billboard/TV/carriers, etc. Believe me, Apple’s not concerned with the previous design having any stronger influence over the new design with the iPhone X series.
 
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