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I think iPhone will have larger screen

corriewf said:
What do you guys think a prototype is? It's a experimental version. Do you know how many concept cars or prototypes have been tested ( probably by apple ) that did get produced.
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Maybe that's your confusion: this was not an experimental prototype. The polish of the design, the finish of the case, even the the stickers on the phone indicated that it was a pre-production test model. That's the last step before final production, and far too late to make major design changes.
 
I would settle for a smaller screen but not much smaller, i guess the higher resolution is a + though.
 
corriewf said:
Again, the first Iphone prototype had a plastic screen. I understand you guys have your logic, but your not using common logic.

1. Apple doesn't give anyone the final product detail except very high up people. A software developer would not be that person.
2. There have been past prototypes that turned out to be far from the final product.

It does NOT cost millions to make one design. It doesn't. It may cost millions to make multiple designs and finalize the software and design for the final product. This is Apple, not some company operated out of a garage. They have all this stuff streamlined after many years. If it costs them 100s of millions to design every product they make, they would be broke. ;)

I think quite a few of you have become attached to what the prototype looks like and may take it personal to find out that what you became attached to, might not even be the final product at all. :)
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I think I just heard the sound of my point about the plastic screen wooshing right over your head!

And **** dude, you don't think it costs millions to make one design? Wrong. It's called R&D. Check this article out:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/197583-apple-s-research-and-development-humbles-other-tech-companies

Over the last 4 years, Apple's R&D budget has been 4.6 billion, that's over a billion a year. That money is going towards making your iPhone, among other things. The article also points out how cost efficient Apple's R&D is. And I guarantee you, designing and building an entire new device to just test a few components would not be cost efficient.
 
thelatinist said:
Maybe that's your confusion: this was not an experimental prototype. The polish of the design, the finish of the case, even the the stickers on the phone indicated that it was a pre-production test model. That's the last step before final production, and far too late to make major design changes.
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I have not heard the term pre-production model linked to the recent phone found. If it is in fact a pre-production model, I would have expected the XX to be replaced with a number for memory size. jmo
 
corriewf said:
I have not heard the term pre-production model linked to the recent phone found. If it is in fact a pre-production model, I would have expected the XX to be replaced with a number for memory size. jmo
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Gruber wrote:

"According to Gizmodo, one of the barcodes attached to the unit read “N90_DVT_GE4X_0493”. According to several sources (of mine) familiar with the project, “N90” is Apple’s codename for the fourth-generation GSM iPhone, slated for release this June or July. “DVT” stands for “design verification test”, an Apple production milestone. The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I now believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release."
 
mikethebigo said:
I think I just heard the sound of my point about the plastic screen wooshing right over your head!

And **** dude, you don't think it costs millions to make one design? Wrong. It's called R&D. Check this article out:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/197583-apple-s-research-and-development-humbles-other-tech-companies

Over the last 4 years, Apple's R&D budget has been 4.6 billion, that's over a billion a year. That money is going towards making your iPhone, among other things. The article also points out how cost efficient Apple's R&D is. And I guarantee you, designing and building an entire new device to just test a few components would not be cost efficient.
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No, that sound was gas. I just ate at Taco Bell. :D

From the article you linked:

Apple is getting a lot for its R&D buck, humbling other large tech companies.
AAPL spent a total of $4.6 billion over the last four years
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Dude do you know how many products and products we didn't even get to buy went into that 4.6 billion? You know how many prototypes and designs and such. I mean that is covering 4 Iphones and how many versions of Ipads...Their OS updates and all of their computers and their prototypes and designs. Thats just the products I can think of. I am sure there are more things Apple provide that I don't know. And like I said before, there are probably a slew of products we never got to see because they were designed tested and scraped.
 
mikethebigo beat me to the Gruber quote.

I'm not going to to argue this point any more. OP clearly has no idea how design works or how prohibitively expensive it would be to design such a refined and even functional decoy phone; or how worthless such a separate design would be for actual testing, since it would be a completely different design. This theory is ridiculous.
 
thelatinist said:
From Josh Gruber:

According to Gizmodo, one of the barcodes attached to the unit read “N90_DVT_GE4X_0493”. According to several sources (of mine) familiar with the project, “N90” is Apple’s codename for the fourth-generation GSM iPhone, slated for release this June or July. “DVT” stands for “design verification test”, an Apple production milestone. The DVT milestone is very late in the game; based on this, I now believe that this unit very closely, if not exactly, resembles what Apple plans to release.​
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LOL. Great minds think alike? Look a few posts up, haha.

Here's more from that article:

"Why did Apple, so secretive about unreleased products, allow these units to be used off-campus? There’s simply no other way to test a phone. Even if maintaining the maximum feasible degree of secrecy, dozens of near-final units go into field testing a few months in advance of production. (This is true for Apple products other than phones as well, but I believe the practice is more widespread with the iPhone due to the nature of cellular network testing.)

The same was true for the 3GS a year ago, and the 3G the year before that. The original iPhone was announced six months before it went on sale; in the interim between the January announcement and its debut in stores at the end of June, limited numbers of them were used for field testing."

That's why full pre-production units are let off campus with certain employees.
 
Wow, OP, you are just unwilling to budge. There is a VERY slim chance we are going to see something different than the Gizmodo leak.

The 1G iPhone prototype had a plastic screen because Apple had originally planned on using plastic screens. The one at Macworld, when they first announced it, had a plastic screen as well. It wasn't until later, after real-world testing with DVT units, that Apple figured out the plastic sucked, and switched to optical glass, which they even publicly acknowledged.
 
Brien said:
Wow, OP, you are just unwilling to budge. There is a VERY slim chance we are going to see something different than the Gizmodo leak.

The 1G iPhone prototype had a plastic screen because Apple had originally planned on using plastic screens. The one at Macworld, when they first announced it, had a plastic screen as well. It wasn't until later, after real-world testing with DVT units, that Apple figured out the plastic sucked, and switched to optical glass, which they even publicly acknowledged.
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LOL! Look at the quote in that article! Steve called the iPhone magical too!

I thought the iPad was the first time they started saying that ********.
 
mikethebigo said:
LOL. Great minds think alike? Look a few posts up, haha.
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Yeah, clicked reply immediately but it took me a few minutes to find the quote at Daring Fireball. The point is a good one, though: you don't run a DVT on a design that you don't plan to produce. The only changes you're going to make after a DVT are not design changes or feature changes, but refinements necessary to make the design meet performance standards. If you made a change of the type the OP suggests, you'd have to run your DVT all over again!
 
Brien said:
Wow, OP, you are just unwilling to budge. There is a VERY slim chance we are going to see something different than the Gizmodo leak.

The 1G iPhone prototype had a plastic screen because Apple had originally planned on using plastic screens. The one at Macworld, when they first announced it, had a plastic screen as well. It wasn't until later, after real-world testing with DVT units, that Apple figured out the plastic sucked, and switched to optical glass, which they even publicly acknowledged.
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Yeah the OP is a jerk. He should just cave. :D


I was just saying it is possible guys. Geesh! I didn't say "it is going to happen so screw you". I was simply saying a possibility and why. Is it possible you are right? Yes. Is it a higher possibility? I don't know. I normally am inclined to everyone having their own opinion except when they try to belittle mine into impossibility universe. The fact of the matter " TheLatinist" is that I probably have about as much experience in producing/designing Iphones as you. Unless you work for Apple designing their iPhones or work for their accounting department, it's sily to assume you know anymore than me.
 
corriewf said:
Yeah the OP is a jerk. He should just cave. :D


I was just saying it is possible guys. Geesh! I didn't say it is going to happen so screw you. I was simply saying a possibility and why. Is it possible you are right? Yes. Is it a higher possibility? I don't know. I normally am inclined to everyone having their own opinion except when they try to belittle mine into impossibility universe. The fact of the matter " TheLatinist" is that I probably have about as much experience in producing/designing Iphones as you. Unless you work for Apple designing their iPhones or work for their accounting department, it's sily to assume you know anymore than me.
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Don't worry about it dude, it's been fun to debate about it :D

Besides, once someone pulls out the "screw you, it's just my opinion" argument, I basically know I've won anyway :p
 
mikethebigo said:
Don't worry about it dude, it's been fun to debate about it :D

Besides, once someone pulls out the "screw you, it's just my opinion" argument, I basically know I've won anyway :p
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No no, I wasn't saying that at all. I was trying to say, " It's not like I was saying this is my opinion screw you. " Sorry if you read it was literal. I did not mean to say screw you. I was meaning to say I am not saying screw you. lol! :D

You guys have good points. You do. I just think it is possible even if it is not probable.
 
AbSoluTc said:
The larger screened iPhone is coming out shortly. You can pre-order it here.
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I understand what your saying. So I just jailbreak the Ipad and use 3G unrestricter...Then use googlevoice.

I think using the Ipad as my phone would show people I am VERY serious about my phone conversations. If I am willing to hold that device up to my head, I have something very serious to say. :D
 
corriewf said:
I understand what your saying. So I just jailbreak the Ipad and use 3G unrestricter...Then use googlevoice.

I think using the Ipad as my phone would show people I am VERY serious about my phone conversations. If I am willing to hold that device up to my head, I have something very serious to say. :D
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Or they might think you are .. well, pictures speak louder than words..

ipad-chain-04-21-2010.jpg


http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/ipad-chain-makes-flavor-flav-obsolete/
 
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