I Think I've Been Brainwashed

iBreatheApple

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With what has been announced so far, I'm not very interested in the Apple Watch. I don't like how it's not waterproof, doesn't have it's own GPS, how it's seemingly obligated to the iPhone, and I especially don't like the alleged battery life. People are comparing it to others on the market; That's not good enough for me. Just because it's 'normal' in today's smartwatch market doesn't make it acceptable. Battery life is one of the main reasons I haven't purchased any other smartwatches so, for me, Apple doesn't seem like they are going to deliver. Also, the health aspect doesn't seem too special either. I have an iPhone app that measure my pulse with spot-on accuracy (as I've compared it to the machines at work (of course it's more convenient on the watch... I digress)) and I thought we'd get more than that and another pedometer.

Having said that, I'm almost positive I will be pre-ordering. Inane, yes? How is that even somewhat rational? I really don't feel as if the first generation Apple Watch is worth it, especially starting at just under $400 after taxes. Anyone feel similar or am I just brainwashed?
 

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I'm with you on the initial reluctance, because the lack of a GPS.

It is a beautiful watch, I'm not sure about its overall usefulness, i.e., I'm not sure how apps will be useable on such a tiny display.

Unlike you though, I'm still not looking to buy one. The cost is too high, the lack of GPS is a show stopper for me. I have a fitbit and while that lacks a lot of the features in the apple watch, it has a battery that lasts 3 to 4 days and includes a GPS. My primary need is for a product that measures and tracks my workouts. The fitbit does this better then the apple watch
 

Joe Rossignol

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With what has been announced so far, I'm not very interested in the Apple Watch. I don't like how it's not waterproof, doesn't have it's own GPS, how it's seemingly obligated to the iPhone, and I especially don't like the alleged battery life. People are comparing it to others on the market; That's not good enough for me. Just because it's 'normal' in today's smartwatch market doesn't make it acceptable. Battery life is one of the main reasons I haven't purchased any other smartwatches so, for me, Apple doesn't seem like they are going to deliver. Also, the health aspect doesn't seem too special either. I have an iPhone app that measure my pulse with spot-on accuracy (as I've compared it to the machines at work (of course it's more convenient on the watch... I digress)) and I thought we'd get more than that and another pedometer.

Having said that, I'm almost positive I will be pre-ordering. Inane, yes? How is that even somewhat rational? I really don't feel as if the first generation Apple Watch is worth it, especially starting at just under $400 after taxes. Anyone feel similar or am I just brainwashed?
I don't think there is any harm in pre-ordering one to try out, especially with a return policy allowing you to bring it back if you don't like it. For me, I need to physically try the Apple Watch before getting too optimistic or pessimistic about it based off photos and videos alone.
 

Technodynamic

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history states:

  • you will want the gen one version, especially after its available
  • Gen 2 will be better than gen 1
  • you can resell your old one at a very good premium considering its used and a year and change old

So the risk is minimal as long as you take care of your product, imo.
 

Zxxv

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what puts me off is not knowing how quick it will go out of fashion. Not meaning I follow fashion just meaning when you buy a nice watch its gonna always look nice but the apple watch maybe won't and could look "bad" fairly quickly if apple update.
 

NewtypeCJ

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With what has been announced so far, I'm not very interested in the Apple Watch. I don't like how it's not waterproof, doesn't have it's own GPS, how it's seemingly obligated to the iPhone, and I especially don't like the alleged battery life. ... Also, the health aspect doesn't seem too special either.
Question - you want it to have GPS but don't think the health aspect is too special?

I thought one of the reasons (maybe the only) to have GPS on the watch is so you could take it for a run without needing to bring your phone. Is there something else I'm not thinking of? Otherwise, if you're using it more for directions, etc., then what's the benefit to adding more cost to the watch if it can piggyback on your phone's GPS for that function?
 

splogue

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Yeah, people asking for GPS confuses me a bit. I'd want it only for one purpose - to track down the watch if it is stolen or lost.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think that's a very good reason for it. But, I also know it would use too much battery power and take up too much space in the watch to make it worthwhile to try and cram it in.

The fact that I have to take the watch off and on every day because it has to be charged and can't go in the shower is a much bigger pain point to me than the lack of GPS. I like to strap on my watch and forget about it, not tend to it every morning and night. I guess I'll have to get used to that, at least for the first iteration of it.

Sean
 

Bane-Thunder

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Question - you want it to have GPS but don't think the health aspect is too special?

I thought one of the reasons (maybe the only) to have GPS on the watch is so you could take it for a run without needing to bring your phone. Is there something else I'm not thinking of? Otherwise, if you're using it more for directions, etc., then what's the benefit to adding more cost to the watch if it can piggyback on your phone's GPS for that function?
You're forgetting the ability to use it as a Navigator. I was disappointed with the watch not having built in gps. Sometimes you might want to use the watch to navigate to a shop or venue for example without the use of my phone say for instance if the battery on the phone died. Obviously the phone will be used more than the watch so it's most likely to die before the watch.

I plan to try the watches on in the Apple Store i don't use watches currently so if I was to buy one it would be strictly a vanity purchase merely a gadget toy for myself. I did always love the idea of a tech watch since Inspect gadget cartoon with his niece using one - Penny as I remember her name.
 

iBreatheApple

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Question - you want it to have GPS but don't think the health aspect is too special?

I thought one of the reasons (maybe the only) to have GPS on the watch is so you could take it for a run without needing to bring your phone. Is there something else I'm not thinking of? Otherwise, if you're using it more for directions, etc., then what's the benefit to adding more cost to the watch if it can piggyback on your phone's GPS for that function?
(What they are giving us) in the health aspect is nothing special. And yes, exactly. GPS + Running/Swimming without iPhone. What's not understood?
 

MICHAELSD

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Frankly we may just be brainwashed. The Apple Watch has no killer features that make it a must-have. Its main appeal is the Apple design DNA.
 

iamMacPerson

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Personally the lack of GPS was never a big deal to me. What really sells it for me was the notifications of my wrist. I know there are other smart watches that do this, however it seems that even from the alpha release we saw in Sept Apple got notifications nailed down. Plus it puts Siri on my wrist which is nice (when she works, to me she has gotten dumber under iOS 8 ).

Yeah I've probably been brainwashed but I just look at the Watch pictures and think 'OOO SHINY!!'
 

Rogifan

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They haven't announced any must-have features, and I doubt there will be many must-have apps if any at all that couldn't be replicated on an iPhone.
How do you define must have features? Seems subjective to me.
 

NewtypeCJ

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(What they are giving us) in the health aspect is nothing special. And yes, exactly. GPS + Running/Swimming without iPhone. What's not understood?
Since you said it was nothing special I assumed that you weren't particularly interested in using the Watch as a health device/for exercise - which is the only function I can understand wanting separate GPS for. Because other functions that use GPS like directions, etc. you're likely to have your phone on you anyway.

You're forgetting the ability to use it as a Navigator. I was disappointed with the watch not having built in gps. Sometimes you might want to use the watch to navigate to a shop or venue for example without the use of my phone say for instance if the battery on the phone died. Obviously the phone will be used more than the watch so it's most likely to die before the watch.
That'd be a fairly rare case though for the expense of putting a separate GPS in.
 

MICHAELSD

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How do you define must have features? Seems subjective to me.
A singular feature that makes consumers want the device. One feature that the tech world is abuzz about and that entices purchasers. Apple Watch does that just for the sake of how it's a well-designed Apple smart watch.
 

Donoban

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A singular feature that makes consumers want the device. One feature that the tech world is abuzz about and that entices purchasers. Apple Watch does that just for the sake of how it's a well-designed Apple smart watch.
Oh Lolz. What makes Apple products popular is there isn't a single must have feature. It's the entire product that is polished to a high level.

Software and hardware, fused into a single chip that you wear on your wrist. I can't wait.
 

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history states:

  • you can resell your old one at a very good premium considering its used and a year and change old
History is being rewritten.

Now producing millions upon millions of units, iPhones and iPads are everywhere. I've kept a close watch (no pun intended) on iPhone 6 resale and it's just as I expected, very low.

Any knowledgeable Apple enthusiast will want the second gen iPhone 6S or 7 or whatever they call it. I know I can't wait to unload my buggy iPhone 6 Plus and replace it with the next new model.

I'd bet the first gen Apple Watch will have the worst resale of any Apple product. That's more than enough reason for me to avoid it like a bad purchase.
 

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I guess I agree OP. Though I do not wear a watch despite owning a Rolex Submariner and despite no killer Apple Watch features I too will be placing my preorder at the first available moment.
 

Mtmspa

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I want it for fitness tracking and Apple Pay. I can keep my 5S longer since I like the smaller form factor.
 

ksuyen

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Do I need one? No.
Do I want one? Oh hell yes.

Is it something that you must have? No.
But you sill going to buy it? Of course.

Is there anything special feature-wise? Not sure, probably yes, probably not.
Then why do you want to get one? Because I want it, it looks good and it's part of Apple ecosystem, and it might be useful.

That's how most people feel about the elusive Watch. It's mysterious and tantalizing.

One thing that everyone who plan to buy this keep in mind, please play with it, wait until the review from people who actually use it come in, see and touch it by yourself, before take your wallet out.
 

iamMacPerson

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Any knowledgeable Apple enthusiast will want the second gen iPhone 6S or 7 or whatever they call it. I know I can't wait to unload my buggy iPhone 6 Plus and replace it with the next new model.
I consider myself very knowledgable not just about Apple but the tech industry as a whole at the hardware level and I still went with the 6 Plus knowing before I bought it that it was down sampling the image. The "s" models are typically more powerful then the models they replaced, but the numbered upgrades are still more powerful then the ones they replaced. The numbered upgrades also seem to have more changes not only internally but externally as well.

I think the 6 Plus is having trouble now because of the gigantic bug we call iOS 8. If iOS 9 is as good as everyone is hyping it up to be, I think that is the OS the 6 Plus will really shine on.

If this year's refresh will be dubbed the 6s, I'll be getting the 7 Plus in a year and a half. The 6 Plus is an amazing phone that has had it short comings exposed by iOS 8.

I'd bet the first gen Apple Watch will have the worst resale of any Apple product. That's more than enough reason for me to avoid it like a bad purchase.
That's a tuff one to figure out at this point. Personally, I don't think it will have the worst resell value. My guess is it will follow in the footsteps of the first gen iPhone and iPad. In 7 years or so it will reach a low point then skyrocket in value. Look at the first gen iPhone. They hit a low of about $50 a phone and just recently started going back up. Last I check, for one in good condition, they are going for around $120.