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I wouldn't mind 8.6 booting a little faster on my Sawtooth. Might have a go at trimming some extensions.
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I tried MacOS 9.2 via QEMU & UTM and it was underwhelming, what is going on?
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It should run Mac OS 8.1. 8.5 needs a PowerPC, so it is a hard cut off for Basilisk II.
Mine isn on 7.5.3, and runs really well, but you're quite right, it does support up to 8.1.
How is the performance of XP in UTM? I have a lot of real XP machines for the time being, but it would be nice to have a local setup on my m1 mini. I run OS 9 on that Mini using SheepShaver, works fine. Sometimes I get the bomb in finder when transferring large files, but that's it. It is only 9.0.4, of course.
It runs pretty well. Of course, I mostly just use it for running old Windows games of my childhood, but performance is otherwise the same as when I run a Windows XP virtual machine in Parallels Desktop, VMWare Fusion or VirtualBox on an Intel Mac.
Performance of Classic Mac OS under QEMU definitely isn't representative of its performance running on real hardware.
I used to own a 400Mhz iMac DV and currently own a 500Mhz PowerBook G3 "Pismo", and even though those machines are only a tiny, tiny fraction as powerful as modern hardware, Mac OS 9 runs on them much better than it does under QEMU — extremely snappy and responsive for most everyday tasks.
I used to own a 400Mhz iMac DV and currently own a 500Mhz PowerBook G3 "Pismo", and even though those machines are only a tiny, tiny fraction as powerful as modern hardware, Mac OS 9 runs on them much better than it does under QEMU — extremely snappy and responsive for most everyday tasks.
Yep, I pre-ordered this when it was brand spanking new
I always felt Mac OS 8.5 (and then 8.6) looked great. Somehow the slickest, "funnest" Mac OS in my nostalgic memory banks. Maybe it was playing Snood, Dirt Bike 3D and Nanosaur on the "5 Flavor" iMac G3s in the computer lab in high school that made this particular OS stand out for me... Either way, solid as a rock and quick to boot!
It's all relative, and yes, we are too spoilt. Humans are the worst
I remember getting my copy of 8 for my Performa.
I’ve always loved PPC Macs and I never understood why. (I’m serious, I was obsessed when I was like 7)
It's kind of amazing, if you went back to 1999 (I was there, rocking a brand new Powerbook G3 Wallstreet), and you tried to emulate a 24-year-old system from 1975 such as the Altair or Apple 1, nobody would be saying "gee I can't dial into AOL and read my email on it. It doesn't even play MP3s, or view PDFs....this is primitive." But in 2023 people routinely take 24 year-old systems and then wonder why they cannot perform modern computing tasks, as well as a modern computer.
I'm not attempting to pick on the OP or anyone in particular, but it seems to be a general trend with so-called retro tech reviews. It's a wonder how well some of these systems have aged and can still do useful things, like me typing this on my Powermac G5 while watching a home video of my kids playing on the beach in Monterrey.
I'm not attempting to pick on the OP or anyone in particular, but it seems to be a general trend with so-called retro tech reviews. It's a wonder how well some of these systems have aged and can still do useful things, like me typing this on my Powermac G5 while watching a home video of my kids playing on the beach in Monterrey.
Yeah, I wasn't trapped in a cave at the time - I was well aware of those developments but thanks for the reminder.
It was pretty heavily implied in my post that I'd chosen to use DOS over those options.
I think part of it is people do not realize how amazing some of those things were when they first were introduced; given the state of the art today. I ran a VT100 emulator on a PCTransporter in an Apple ][, something that is primitive today but was pretty cool and useful back then. Same with printing to my old Daisy Wheel printer.
Games may lack modern graphics but had a lot of playability. The original Castle Wolfenstein, despite being a top down scroller, was quite fun to play.
No doubt, 40 years from now, today's tech will appear just as primitive in comparison to the new stuff.
Very true and there's plenty of games from that era that didn't even have graphics at all but were extremely playable and remain so.