iPhone I want my iOS 10 back!

[DonguillermoDelSalar]

Since update to IOS 11 my phone is: sloooow, functions have desappeared, apps are not functional even native ones (Podcast or imessage opening in landscape mode....). yesterday and today I had to open the si card tray because my iphone 6 was not receiving any signal. I want my ios10 BACK!

 

[Sharkoneau]

Since update to IOS 11 my phone is: sloooow, functions have desappeared, apps are not functional even native ones Podcast. yesterday and today I had to open the si card tray because my iphone 6 was not receiving any signal. I want my ios10 BACK!

Haha well backup, download the 10.3.3 ipsw file, and restore from your backup within iTunes. Apple is still signing it. I’m sorry you’re having issues, but while you can go get it!

 

[zone23]

Haha well backup, download the 10.3.3 ipsw file, and restore from your backup within iTunes. Apple is still signing it. I’m sorry you’re having issues, but while you can go get it!

Can you restore an iOS 11 backup on to iOS 10.3.3?

 

[Paddle1]

Can you restore an iOS 11 backup on to iOS 10.3.3?

No, you need an iOS 10 or earlier backup.

 

[DonguillermoDelSalar]

Haha well backup, download the 10.3.3 ipsw file, and restore from your backup within iTunes. Apple is still signing it. I’m sorry you’re having issues, but while you can go get it!

Thanks for the info. I did it and I have found my iphone snapyness and battery life!!!

 

[throwthedice]

Haha well backup, download the 10.3.3 ipsw file, and restore from your backup within iTunes. Apple is still signing it. I’m sorry you’re having issues, but while you can go get it!

I'm still on 10.x and I'm not upgrading yet but I'm theory, would it be possible to just download the ipsw file and hold on to it, in case I eventually upgrade?

Does the restore process check timestamps for when the file was downloaded etc?
And is it possible to use this ipsw file eventually when Apple stops signing it?

Sorry for n00bish question but I've never had to use a ipsw file..

 

[Manatlt]

I'm still on 10.x and I'm not upgrading yet but I'm theory, would it be possible to just download the ipsw file and hold on to it, in case I eventually upgrade?

Does the restore process check timestamps for when the file was downloaded etc?
And is it possible to use this ipsw file eventually when Apple stops signing it?

Sorry for n00bish question but I've never had to use a ipsw file..

Nope, doesn't matter what day, time, century you downloaded the IPSW. If Apple stops signing iOS 10, you can no longer upgrade/downgrade to iOS 10 as you need to verify with the Apple servers.

 

[pandi.ruvina]

Nope, doesn't matter what day, time, century you downloaded the IPSW. If Apple stops signing iOS 10, you can no longer upgrade to iOS 10 as you need to verify with the Apple servers.

That is not right! Apple should learn from Android to have the possibility to downgrade at any time, not just by going only on one direction and then devices keeps starting to go obsolete/vintage to the point that are useless.

P.S : got my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, and just by downgrading to Lollipop from Nougat, it's still a truly beast!! Apple need to learn yet!

 

[throwthedice]

That is not right! Apple should learn from Android to have the possibility to downgrade at any time, not just by going only on one direction and then devices keeps starting to go obsolete/vintage to the point that are useless.

P.S : got my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, and just by downgrading to Lollipop from Nougat, it's still a truly beast!! Apple need to learn yet!

I might be wrong but I think allowing users to use their choice of OS version will take away the "<latest ios> adoption vs Android" stick that Apple/Apple fans use to beat Android users with.

 

[phillytim]

Since update to IOS 11 my phone is: sloooow, functions have desappeared, apps are not functional even native ones (Podcast or imessage opening in landscape mode....). yesterday and today I had to open the si card tray because my iphone 6 was not receiving any signal. I want my ios10 BACK!

There you go: http://osxdaily.com/2017/09/20/downgrade-ios-11-to-ios-10-iphone-ipad/

 

[newellj]

Since update to IOS 11 my phone is: sloooow, functions have desappeared, apps are not functional even native ones (Podcast or imessage opening in landscape mode....). yesterday and today I had to open the si card tray because my iphone 6 was not receiving any signal. I want my ios10 BACK!

So stop whining and downgrade. I downgraded my other iPad last night. Apple is still signing 10.3.3, but probably won't be for long. Don't be a victim.

Remember however that if you don't have an archived backup of your device on iOS 10 you can't restore from a backup. Later-version backups can't be restored to a device running an earlier-version iOS.

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Nope, doesn't matter what day, time, century you downloaded the IPSW. If Apple stops signing iOS 10, you can no longer upgrade to iOS 10 as you need to verify with the Apple servers.

Not that this needs confirmation, but...this is true. Apple is still signing 10.3.3 but won't for much longer, and when they stop, you're stuck.

 

[Sharkoneau]

I might be wrong but I think allowing users to use their choice of OS version will take away the "<latest ios> adoption vs Android" stick that Apple/Apple fans use to beat Android users with.

Also, downgrading at will to prior versions will reintroduce people to vulnerabilities not present in newer software.

 

[C DM]

Not that this needs confirmation, but...this is true. Apple is still signing 10.3.3 but won't for much longer, and when they stop, you're stuck.

Looks like that time has come: Apple Stops Signing iOS 10.3.3 and iOS 11.0, Downgrading No Longer Possible

 

[newellj]

Looks like that time has come: Apple Stops Signing iOS 10.3.3 and iOS 11.0, Downgrading No Longer Possible

Thank you - this is how it goes.
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Also, downgrading at will to prior versions will reintroduce people to vulnerabilities not present in newer software.

This is true. It can also limit updates to apps, and can prevent installation of new apps. It's a mixed bag of results and consequences.

 

[phillytim]

iOS 10, and 11.0 are no longer being signed by Apple. It's too late to turn back now.

 

[Infrared]

One has to wonder what on earth's going on here. With APFS, with Metal, with Swift etc. etc., you'd expect things to get better, not worse. Could it be that some of these new things are simply not very good?

That's speculation and it would be great if someone could pinpoint what's actually degrading performance.

Pretty soon after iOS 11 was released I was in an Apple store and I swiped across the home screen on one of the new iPad Pros and it stuttered. I didn't think too much of it at the time because I had other things on my mind, but now I'm wondering if iOS 11 runs truly smoothly on any Apple device. It comes to something when the newer devices on the newest (and you'd hope best optimized) OS can't do the exact same things as smoothly as museum piece devices on iOS 6/7.

 

[one more]

With APFS, with Metal, with Swift etc. etc., you'd expect things to get better, not worse.

APFS was introduced under iOS 10, so 10.3.3 was using it and everybody was quite happy about its snappiness.

I have been running iOS 11 public beta since v 3 on my SE (now use a 7 and iPad Air 2) and it performed/performs rather well for my needs.

 

[Infrared]

APFS was introduced under iOS 10, so 10.3.3 was using it and everybody was quite happy about its snappiness.

Yes, but it's pretty new, so it may well still be under development. I'm not, in any case, specifically blaming APFS. At the moment there are a lot of people with performance issues. The next step is to identify what the actual cause of these is.

I have been running iOS 11 public beta since v 3 on my SE (now use a 7 and iPad Air 2) and it performed/performs rather well for my needs.

Well, I can say that there are glitches using the Air 2. That's not to say the device is completely compromised, but there's definitely something afoot. For example, there is significant judder in the Reddit app on the Air 2 that was not occurring when scrolling on iOS 10.3.3. In fact, the judder is at about the same level as on the 5S, a significantly less powerful device. It rather looks as though the extra power of the Air 2 is not overcoming or even reducing the problem. If the h/w makes no difference, suspicion naturally falls on the software.

 

[pat500000]

One has to wonder what on earth's going on here. With APFS, with Metal, with Swift etc. etc., you'd expect things to get better, not worse. Could it be that some of these new things are simply not very good?

That's speculation and it would be great if someone could pinpoint what's actually degrading performance.

Pretty soon after iOS 11 was released I was in an Apple store and I swiped across the home screen on one of the new iPad Pros and it stuttered. I didn't think too much of it at the time because I had other things on my mind, but now I'm wondering if iOS 11 runs truly smoothly on any Apple device. It comes to something when the newer devices on the newest (and you'd hope best optimized) OS can't do the exact same things as smoothly as museum piece devices on iOS 6/7.

This is one of the reason whyi'm not so quick to buying a new phone.

 

[newellj]

Yes, but it's pretty new, so it may well still be under development. I'm not, in any case, specifically blaming APFS. At the moment there are a lot of people with performance issues. The next step is to identify what the actual cause of these is.



Well, I can say that there are glitches using the Air 2. That's not to say the device is completely compromised, but there's definitely something afoot. For example, there is significant judder in the Reddit app on the Air 2 that was not occurring when scrolling on iOS 10.3.3. In fact, the judder is at about the same level as on the 5S, a significantly less powerful device. It rather looks as though the extra power of the Air 2 is not overcoming or even reducing the problem. If the h/w makes no difference, suspicion naturally falls on the software.

Agree, even on the iPad Air 2, which remains a pretty potent piece of hardware, iOS 11 and 11.0.1 did not run acceptably, and I'm pretty forgiving about visual cosmetics like lag and judder.

 

[piyushbhartia]

Since update to IOS 11 my phone is: sloooow, functions have desappeared, apps are not functional even native ones (Podcast or imessage opening in landscape mode....). yesterday and today I had to open the si card tray because my iphone 6 was not receiving any signal. I want my ios10 BACK!

I was using IOS 10.3.3 & it was update to IOS 11 & quite disappointed.REMINDERS is unstable.