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I duuno I think ULV and discrete gpu could work. Back in the day LG in Asia and Australia had two 10.6in notebook with an older ULV intel SU7600 cpu, and nvidia 8400M 256mb gpu. There was the X100, which was a regular notebook, and the P100, which was the tablet model. If LG could have done it back in 2007, I would think Apple could easily do a 11.6in with the newer ULV(less heat) and discrete gpu.
 
This little 13" does not need a discrete gpu so why should a 11.6" need it?

Get over it. Its not a toy its something to do serious work that is not related to graphics or similar.
 
This little 13" does not need a discrete gpu so why should a 11.6" need it?

Get over it. Its not a toy its something to do serious work that is not related to graphics or similar.

How about video? It's true that it doesn't need discrete GPU. But I can't seem to imagine buying a computer these days that can't play 1080p video. And if you get stuck with Intel's integrated rubbish, then say bye bye to even such basic stuff.

GPU impacts overall performance, however slightly. Or the whole CUDA/OpenCL thing. It's fairly useful.

It's better to have and don't need than need and not have...
 
How about video? It's true that it doesn't need discrete GPU. But I can't seem to imagine buying a computer these days that can't play 1080p video. And if you get stuck with Intel's integrated rubbish, then say bye bye to even such basic stuff.

Really? Maybe you are thinking of the older X3100 or one of the current Intel netbook gpus. I know my Vaio TT has a intel 4500hd gpu & I never had a problem playing any 1080p video(or 720p flash), even when hooked up to a 46in tv via HDMI. I am not the only one with similar results, as many computers use the 4500hd gpu. Maybe OSX is different, but in Windows 7(and that time I tired Ubuntu) HD video plays fine. As for gaming, 3D rendering, and other stuff that tax the gpu, the 4500hd is okay at best, but that not why I got it. I still have my MBP if I need more gpu power.
 
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What did Gruber say?
 
i want it.


sure...that'd be 3 billion dollars

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lol good one

i have gone through the episode but i didnt hear him say anything about the Air..at what min he mentions it?????
 
Why would apple even consider a 11.6" Air if Jobs talked down on any laptop less than 13" at the first Air introduction? He also talked down on making the keyboard any smaller than the current Air's size. Doesn't really make sense at all, but hypocrisy isn't rare or anything either.
 
Why would apple even consider a 11.6" Air if Jobs talked down on any laptop less than 13" at the first Air introduction? He also talked down on making the keyboard any smaller than the current Air's size. Doesn't really make sense at all, but hypocrisy isn't rare or anything either.

If they are foolish enough to make an Air under 13" I hope that 20008 Air introduction video haunts Steve for life :D
 
Why would apple even consider a 11.6" Air if Jobs talked down on any laptop less than 13" at the first Air introduction? He also talked down on making the keyboard any smaller than the current Air's size. Doesn't really make sense at all, but hypocrisy isn't rare or anything either.

Well ... imagine the current air, with the same size screen, same keyboard, but a very very thin bezel. That right there would probably shave off more than an inch of the width.

Then, instead of being tapered, the body would be squared off (mimicking the iphone 4).

If they can simply cut off the bezel - right there you'd have a MUCH smaller footprint with the SAME size screen and keyboard.
 
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peoplethesedays: Jobs has been known to state a disinterest in something, and then do it. Perhaps like a footbal player's "head fake".... I'm going this way, whoops, not really...

A town near me once had a postal drop box at the end of a dead end street with offices on it. Nobody mowed the grass around it. One day the local newspaper mentioned that the Post Office had forgotten all about that box, and had not been emptying it for years. Years of mail had accumulated in it. Perhaps this is a metaphor for the Air.
 
Well ... imagine the current air, with the same size screen, same keyboard, but a very very thin bezel. That right there would probably shave off more than an inch of the width.

Then, instead of being tapered, the body would be squared off (mimicking the iphone 4).

If they can simply cut off the bezel - right there you'd have a MUCH smaller footprint with the SAME size screen and keyboard.

I think when peoplecompanies mention 11.6" or any screen size for that matter, it means the actually display screen size [usable viewing area], not bezel and other things included. Actually I believe most laptops/desktops/televisions and other screen specifications are that way. I could be wrong though so correct me.

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peoplethesedays: Jobs has been known to state a disinterest in something, and then do it. Perhaps like a footbal player's "head fake".... I'm going this way, whoops, not really...

Maybe we're misinterpreting Job's 2008 Air introduction from 2 different perspectives because while I understand what you mean with the 'head fake'; I interpreted the keynote like entatlg did, Jobs crapped on any laptop that was smaller than 13.3" and had a keyboard smaller than the current Airs. The reasoning for the distaste towards smaller sized laptops was to build up the Air's reason for being, and its accomplishment of fitting the 13.3" screen and the regular sized keyboard into something with such a small footprint.

I think miss-leading, juking, 'head faking' is different than what Jobs did at the 2008 Air keynote, which is why I mentioned hypocrisy and entatlg was joking about it haunting Jobs if he ever created a laptop smaller than 13"
 
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Jobs is so tight lipped... I don't know if he's even said enough about any design philosophy over the yearss, for hypocrisy to even become possible.

Design's complicated, especially in a dynamic social context. A new product could somewhat stick to an old statement, and somewhat not. If one new Air inches a little closer to netbooklandia, another simultaneous higher-end 13" model could be where they finally get that one right.
 
Why would apple even consider a 11.6" Air if Jobs talked down on any laptop less than 13" at the first Air introduction? He also talked down on making the keyboard any smaller than the current Air's size. Doesn't really make sense at all, but hypocrisy isn't rare or anything either.

11.6" is the smallest they could make the screen while still keeping the keyboard the same.

The 12" PBG4 was a tiny laptop with a full-sized keyboard. I think when Jobs was $#!t-canning "tiny" laptops/netbooks, he meant ones w/o full-sized keyboards.

Regardless, 11.6" or 13" - I just want a new Air soon! I love my air, but find myself butting up against the 2GB RAM limit daily. :S
 
i'm tired of waiting..and what piss me the most is there isn't any rumored upcoming Mac event..
 
i'm tired of waiting..and what piss me the most is there isn't any rumored upcoming Mac event..

There doesn't necessarily need to be an event. The Mac Mini was overhauled for the first time in a LONG time, and it was without an event. Just store going down and store coming up with a press release and new product.

The Air could be the same -- fingers crossed!
 
I reckon when  releases the 17 MBA, I'll upgrade. Will get laid more than the OP whichever quarter. Size does matter :D
 
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