I was excited when I saw the microphone in Messages thinking it was for voice texting

Cooknn said:
Just recorded and sent a short audio message. I thought I saw the word "keep" but ignored it. Upon returning to iMessage it is no longer there... So, my recipient received it. Guess I need to manually keep them. I can see where this might save space. But you lose record of your conversation :confused:
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Settings > Messages > Audio Messages > Expire: Never
 
I'm with the OP.
I'd much rather be able to do voice dictation from within the text window rather than use Siri. I don't see any reason why I would want to send a voice clip. Maybe one day I will... but for now, I'd like the old way back.
 
MotleyGrrl said:
I'm with the OP.
I'd much rather be able to do voice dictation from within the text window rather than use Siri. I don't see any reason why I would want to send a voice clip. Maybe one day I will... but for now, I'd like the old way back.
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The old way is still there, I believe. If I understood the OP correctly, they want the new voice recording button to be the dictation button. But the old dictation button is still where it always has been.
 
Night Spring said:
The old way is still there, I believe. If I understood the OP correctly, they want the new voice recording button to be the dictation button. But the old dictation button is still where it always has been.
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Yeah that's my problem, the Siri dictation mic is horribly placed. It's hard to hit and makes the number pad half the size and much harder to hit. I leave Siri off for that reason.
 
TH55 said:
Yeah that's my problem, the Siri dictation mic is horribly placed. It's hard to hit and makes the number pad half the size and much harder to hit. I leave Siri off for that reason.
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You keep saying the voice dictation button cuts the number button in half, and I never realized that the number button could be larger, lol. In my case, turning off Siri doesn't make the number button that much larger, because I have multiple keyboards enabled, so the "switch keyboard" button is taking up half the space anyway.
 
TH55 said:
But you have the home button for vouce texting, why can't you use that? At the very least there should be the option to remove the mic from the keyboard. And I'm talking about the number keyboard, not the number pad sorry.
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iOS 8.1 betas have an option to disable dictation from the keyboards, without changing anything for Siri as far as I can tell. So assuming it's still there in the final released version of iOS 8.1 it sounds like that part of the "issue" should be addressed for you.
 
T5BRICK said:
I see the OP is still posting the same kinds of threads....

If your iPhone is plugged in, use "Hey, Siri." and then send a message. 100% hands free operation.
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Yet another reason to jailbreak. Been doing this since 2011 and my phone doesnt need to be plugged in.
 
AndrewR23 said:
Yet another reason to jailbreak. Been doing this since 2011 and my phone doesnt need to be plugged in.
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How is the battery life with 'OkSiri'?

I would assume the phone always on & listening would drop the battery life around 10-20% by the end of the day compared to normal.
 
TH55 said:
Really?? Will it make much harder to voice text?
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I'm not really sure what voice texting really refers to, but in 8.1 you'll have the option of having a dictation button on the keyboard or not to have it (which would be separate from having Siri enabled or disabled).

So if you use dictation then you can leave it there, and if not, you can disable that part of it (while still leaving Siri, which you can disable separately if you want).
 
I was excited when I saw the microphone in Messages thinking it was for voice...

Another thing people don't know is that when you use the hey Siri feature you don't need to wait for her to activate.

For example you can just do: "hey Siri text wife when are you getting home?"

She will repeat message and say ok to send? "yes".

Done.
 
Hal~9000 said:
How is the battery life with 'OkSiri'?

I would assume the phone always on & listening would drop the battery life around 10-20% by the end of the day compared to normal.
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Sounds right. I rarely use it but its useful when I need it. Today I installed some tweaks and now my iOS 7.1.2 keyboard is exactly like iOS 8. Love it.


Just amazes me some young people like the guy that made predictive keyboard is around 24 made a better keyboard then Apple with a team up highly experienced engineers.
 
AndrewR23 said:
Sounds right. I rarely use it but its useful when I need it. Today I installed some tweaks and now my iOS 7.1.2 keyboard is exactly like iOS 8. Love it.


Just amazes me some young people like the guy that made predictive keyboard is around 24 made a better keyboard then Apple with a team up highly experienced engineers.
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Larger companies have more resources often, but also way more bureaucracy in the literal and figurative sense of that word, which can get in the way.
 
C DM said:
I'm not really sure what voice texting really refers to, but in 8.1 you'll have the option of having a dictation button on the keyboard or not to have it (which would be separate from having Siri enabled or disabled).

So if you use dictation then you can leave it there, and if not, you can disable that part of it (while still leaving Siri, which you can disable separately if you want).
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What I'm asking is if I remove the dictation button is there a way to still use dictation (telling it to text someone)?
 
TH55 said:
What I'm asking is if I remove the dictation button is there a way to still use dictation (telling it to text someone)?
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Well, if the dictation button is removed, there's no way to access dictation. You can still use Siri to text someone if you want to.
 
C DM said:
Well, if the dictation button is removed, there's no way to access dictation. You can still use Siri to text someone if you want to.
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I thought you just said that's what dictation is, using Siri to text someone?

When I was calling it voice texting you said you didn't know what I was talking about and it was called dictation.

What is using Siri to text someone called? And how can I still use that without the dictation button?
 
TH55 said:
I thought you just said that's what dictation is, using Siri to text someone?

When I was calling it voice texting you said you didn't know what I was talking about and it was called dictation.

What is using Siri to text someone called? And how can I still use that without the dictation button?
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There's dictation, there's Siri, and there's audio messages. There's really nothing called voice texting, and that's where at least some of the confusion comes from.

Dictation is basically the microphone button that appears on the keyboard that can be used to type something in by dictating. Right now it's attached to Siri in the sense that's it's there when Siri is enabled and it's not there when Siri is disabled. In iOS 8.1 it should be separate in the sense that you can disable it while still having Siri enabled, for example.

Siri is, well, Siri. You can use it to text people, to read messages, to email people and read email messages, check your calendar, the weather, sports, etc., etc., etc. In iOS 8.1 you can still do that while you can separately disable dictation form the keyboard if you don't really use that or don't want that key there basically.

Audio messages are separate from all that and basically provide a way to record a message and send it as an audio recording so that the recipient can listen to it.
 
so, from what i gather after reading the thread...

pple have given the op some solutions (such as use a 3rd party keyboard)

however, it appears op only wants that one "elusive" solution.
and, so the op choose to continue to rant on the siri toggle and change in the default keyboard layout.

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op, u already know the limitations. if ur solution was readily available, don't u think someone wld have told u that by then

why don't u just work around/with it. it's not that hard.
 
C DM said:
There's dictation, there's Siri, and there's audio messages. There's really nothing called voice texting, and that's where at least some of the confusion comes from.

Dictation is basically the microphone button that appears on the keyboard that can be used to type something in by dictating. Right now it's attached to Siri in the sense that's it's there when Siri is enabled and it's not there when Siri is disabled. In iOS 8.1 it should be separate in the sense that you can disable it while still having Siri enabled, for example.

Siri is, well, Siri. You can use it to text people, to read messages, to email people and read email messages, check your calendar, the weather, sports, etc., etc., etc. In iOS 8.1 you can still do that while you can separately disable dictation form the keyboard if you don't really use that or don't want that key there basically.

Audio messages are separate from all that and basically provide a way to record a message and send it as an audio recording so that the recipient can listen to it.
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Oh ok, gotcha - so how do I tell Siri to text someone, just hold down the home key?

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ttmrn said:
so, from what i gather after reading the thread...

pple have given the op some solutions (such as use a 3rd party keyboard)

however, it appears op only wants that one "elusive" solution.
and, so the op choose to continue to rant on the siri toggle and change in the default keyboard layout.

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op, u already know the limitations. if ur solution was readily available, don't u think someone wld have told u that by then

why don't u just work around/with it. it's not that hard.
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What are you talking about, they just said you will be able to remove the dictation key and still use Siri, which is exactly what I want.
 
TH55 said:
Oh ok, gotcha - so how do I tell Siri to text someone, just hold down the home key?
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Yep, just hold down the home button and when you hear the beep say "Siri please text John Doe" or whoever is in your contact, she will say "Ok, what would you like it to say?" at which point you will here the beep again and can say what you want the text to be. Finally she will ask you if you are ready to send it and you say yes.
 
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