I was planning to invest in a high-end 15" but... Haswell

[kappaknight]

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That's an interesting point. It's just that I would like to have that peace of mind and I also wouldn't want spending 2000 every 24 months. It would feel like buying a smartphobe every 6 months. Yes, the analogy is unfitting but that's how it feels lol

You don't need a computer. You need to go back to school. You suck at math if you think spending $2,000 every 24 months is worse than spending $4,000 every 45 months.

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I'll admit it, I'm addicted to new hardware. Especially when it comes to Apple. I replace my MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac Pro's at every single refresh because I can afford it, and I enjoy doing so.

My point? There's rarely a big jump in performance. With the occasional exception. Many here are raving about how fast SSD's are.

I don't find them that shockingly fast any longer because I have been using them in my ThinkPads since SSD's first debuted a few years ago, so they are not new to me.

To the question here: I _do_ believe that Haswell will be worth waiting for. Working in the industry I stay very close to the latest hardware developments.

It will be one of those exceptions where the performance will be substantially better in a variety of areas. Certainly enough to be worth waiting for if one has the patience to do so.

It's great that you can afford it but maybe it's time you realize that new toys don't make you as happy as you think they should. Honestly, if they did, you wouldn't have to upgrade at every iteration.

Then again... as a stock holder, we love people like you.

 

[negativzero]

If you wait for Haswell now, and when it does, you'll be waiting for Skylake then. The waiting/deliberating game never ends. You should just buy a notebook when you need it, don't bother chasing technology, it gets better all the time.

 

[Dwalls90]

Hi

Long story short, I wanted to buy next summer a fully loaded 15" and keep it for at least 3 and 1/2 years and still be able to work on the hard stuff honorably for this time frame. By that meaning getting even the 512 SSD and the Apple Care that leading me to almost 4000$ investment.

I KNOW that with technology there is always something better coming out very soon but Haswell seems to finally "innovate" in terms of user experience, not just power. Let's be honest, since 2005-2006 all CPU upgrades were "just" power upgrades, all laptops still have heating issues (in terms of comfort, not hardware security) and power management can vastly be improved.
I doubt about the 24h battery life but getting even 12h would be totally awesome. Add the less fan noise and I call it a revolution in laptops. Imagine charging your laptop once in 2-4 days. I wouldn't want to waste almost 4k and after 12 months be pwnd with something like this.

Question is simple, is it worth the waiting for Haswell ? Is it something finally different about it ? I am absolutely in no rush, just got a base 13 2011 which is more than fine.
Besides, maybe by that time frame, 1 TB SSD will be available at the cost of the current 512.


Discuss. And thanks !

Lol ... I don't see SSD's decreasing in price anytime soon, they have stagnated quite a bit. That said, there is ALWAYS newer technology on the horizon - so if you wait forever, you'll never have it! In my opinion there have been pretty good upgrades year over year ... the 2011 13" MBP runs alongside the 2010 loaded 17" MBP ... that's pretty good if you ask me.

And don't take those theoretical and press release estimates as serious data. We should hopefully see some battery life increases, but a 24 hour MBP is not coming around anytime soon! We need to see the 10W CPU's and battery tech to continue steadily improving for that

 

[thejadedmonkey]

I think rather than spending $4000 for one computer to last 4 years, it is better to spend $2000 on a computer for two years, and another $2000 for another computer two years after that.

Take a $2000 top of the line computer from 4 years ago. If you bought that same model with more souped up specs for $3000, it is STILL junk compared to a $500 computer from today.

In my opinion, if you want a computer and need one, then buy one. If you don't need one, don't buy one. Price versus performance in my opinion will always be proportionate no matter what generation you are in.

+1111111 (that's over 1-million!)

I had a $2000 Macbook Pro. It lasted almost 5 years, before I couldn't take how slow it was video editing and gaming. Before that I had never spend over $1500 on a laptop, and it had never lasted over 3 years before I just got a new one. Now I got a Dell for $1000, and only got a 2-year warranty for it, instead of a 3-year warranty. I know in 2 years, even a $500 PC will be better than my (almost) top of the line PC today.

Spend $2000 today on a MBP, and in 2 years, spend another $2000 on a MBP. Same money spend, but you'll have a vastly superior computer for a longer time.

Also, sell your old MBP for $1000, and your new MBP costs you $1000. You also just saved $1000.

 

[realchimera]

You don't need a computer. You need to go back to school. You suck at math if you think spending $2,000 every 24 months is worse than spending $4,000 every 45 months.

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It's great that you can afford it but maybe it's time you realize that new toys don't make you as happy as you think they should. Honestly, if they did, you wouldn't have to upgrade at every iteration.

Then again... as a stock holder, we love people like you.

LOL. Not sure if that guy should go back to primary school to learn entry level math, or he should also go to business school to learn the time value of money.

 

[Gurutech]

The sweet spot is around $2000ish MBP.
It has a great resale value.
So I get to own one of the top mac laptops every year for about $500.
Guess how much my $1000ish a year old Samsung laptop is.