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Once you send one of them back you'll only have the other one, and you won't be comparing them any more. I'm sure either one will keep you happy in the long run.
Best Buy here and Costco have both on display. There is a pretty decent difference between the two screen wise imo. The m2 mba sits much closer to the 14 pro but isn’t quite as good. Much closer though.
To be fair the benefits of the MBP aren't just confined to the higher performance. It's also the screen and speakers which you'll benefit from every single day.
I think the 16” especially is a beautiful combination of all of Apple’s previous designs - it has elements of my Al & Ti G4s, the original Retina MacBook Pros, and in Space Gray, the tbMBPs. It’s also slightly lighter than the original Retina Pros as well, which I find interesting.
Saw the Air in person, however, and if I didn’t really need 32GB of RAM and more displays (plus ProMotion which is really nice) I honestly would’ve entertained trading in my 16” for a fully specced Air. Beautiful design, especially in Starlight (Midnight looks nice but even the brand new display model had chips around the MagSafe port).
Honestly, only Apple releasing a new processor could have someone say : the update isn't big enough to be called V2.0.
It's like people want it to be so big they have a reason to take out their wallet and update. Every time a new gen of Intel was announced, nobody would say such thing, and you know Intel had minor releases between 2012 and 2021.
It's like people want it to be so big they have a reason to take out their wallet and update. Every time a new gen of Intel was announced, nobody would say such thing, and you know Intel had minor releases between 2012 and 2021.
I agree with everything the original poster says. As an owner of both an M2 Air & 14" MBP, I feel the M2 Air is just a bit quicker with every day tasks like opening apps, new tabs, safari surfing. It's a joy to use honestly and I have zero complaints. And the weight makes it more comfortable to use over the 14" particularly when on your lap / tummy. I've just formatted the 14" and readying it to go on eBay this weekend. Won't miss it at all.
M2 MBA 10/24/2
I’ve owned many laptops, metal alloy objects (cyberdyne 101) and miscellaneous memorabilia and this is the pinnacle for me.
Impossibly light and thin, lightning speed in real world tasks, no fan or moving parts, spacious and ramacious, light, thin (repetition for appropriate weighting) silent AND deadly. Unlike other sbds this one will also win beauty pageants.
The greatest laptop ever made so far. Bar none? Perhaps. Bar some? Arguable. This is all purely subjective.
And the best part? I was right. I knew it would be. I knew. But kudos to OP for the brass balls.
I’ve owned many laptops, metal alloy objects (cyberdyne 101) and miscellaneous memorabilia and this is the pinnacle for me.
Impossibly light and thin, lightning speed in real world tasks, no fan or moving parts, spacious and ramacious, light, thin (repetition for appropriate weighting) silent AND deadly. Unlike other sbds this one will also win beauty pageants.
The greatest laptop ever made so far. Bar none? Perhaps. Bar some? Arguable. This is all purely subjective.
And the best part? I was right. I knew it would be. I knew. But kudos to OP for the brass balls.
I think that's part of why the Air exists. I love the MBP form factor-- it's a tool and it's designed to be used. I moved from an older 15" to the 16" Max, so the size didn't change much, but it got heavier-- but it got heavier because they designed and filled the space with battery.
I guess if I just wanted a machine for web apps and Word, I'd go with the Air. It would be lighter in the backpack, for sure.
Do you all have even the slightest grasp of how wasteful your practices are? Buying multiple machine ‘just to try’ : the energy consumed during shipping, packaging needing to be re-done… whatever happened to going to the store, making a choice and living with that choice like a grown up?
The reduced heat sink and increased thermals with poor throttling give me pause on recommending it in any way to people. Glad it works for you though.
what?? this is your exact quote:
"Seeing as the screen is what you look at all the time 14” is the winner"
so i have no idea what you're talking about now...
Yup. The original MacBook Air jump started the ultrabook concept, and the ultra portable form factors are a dime a dozen nowadays, especially after the PC OEMs embraced dropping optical drives and went SSD. Some are even lighter than the MacBook Air. Hardware design wise, everybody’s catching up. The remaining liability is x86 poor performance per watt.
How dare you! My 16" is beautiful! 🤣
To be fair I did replace a 10-year old 17" one so maybe you have some kind of point, but that's only because I was waiting for one that first could match 4TB of storage like I had in the old one (removeable drive and removeable DVD for a 2x2TB), then wasn't thermal throttling badly, or had hardly any IO, or a crap keyboard. Finally the intel 16" got pretty good looking so I nearly got that, but then I heard the ARM rumours and figured I'd wait a little longer. The M1 looked great, so waited more for the larger pro, then finally after *forever* the 16" M1 Max came out which I've been delighted by. I've used plenty of the in-between era Macs (just not owned one personally), but don't find them at all "prettier", just they have sharper less flowing lines and sometimes less comfortable edges and were more frustrating that they were sub-par machines in one way or another, or in my mind un-necessarily thin for a hit on performance.
Keep thin for the Air, and Pro machines for performance. Not have a pointless Air where a load of Pro ones are almost the same thinness and performance suffers for it.
I’ve had a few instances where FedEx had it in time but Apple return expired and a refund wasn’t processed. Fixed with a few phone calls to Apple but not quite as easy
Agreed. I ended up deciding on the MBA. The screens are close enough for every day use... only really shines when I do HDR content which isn't often enough to off-set the better battery on the MBA and the portability. Additionally, a lot of my actions leverage single core speed more than multi core and the M2 feels a bit faster as a result.
Behave yourself the MBP is pure sex!, having said that I’m ordering one tomorrow and I may now cancel that plan and go for an M2 Air in midnight
FYI: There is no 10 year old Powerbook the last Powerbooks were sold until 2006. The thinnest of them, the 17", was 2.6 cm. The currently thickest MacBook Pro is 1.68 cm. The 12" Powerbook was even 3 cm think and the current 14" is 1.55 cm. So I would say the Powerbook was massively thinker than the MacBook Pro now.
Yeah that is something that is weird. On my wife’s 14” m1 pro the screen gives me a weird feeling. Interestingly i don’t get that feeling with my 12” iPad Pro m1. I’m not sure if they have different settings for pwm