I would be happy with the new 13" MBP if ...

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by CopperX, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. CopperX macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    #1
    I would be happy with the new 13" MBP if it just was the MacBook Air + Backlit keyboard + Firewire + Ethernet.

    That's all I ask.
     
  2. Tomorrow macrumors 604

    Tomorrow

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2008
    Location:
    Always a day away
    #2
    Um...isn't it? :confused:
     
  3. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #3
    Sounds like what you want is more like a MacBook Air with backlit KB and USB 3.0 or Light Peak. MBPs are aimed at different people. Not everyone prefers lightness and smallness over power and upgradeability.
     
  4. ECUpirate44 macrumors 603

    ECUpirate44

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Location:
    NC
    #4
    Hey Hellhammer, would Apple adopt USB 3.0 or Light Peak?
     
  5. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #5
    Apple has been a strong supporter of Light Peak. I would expect Apple to be an early adopter although there are still things we are not aware of (e.g. availability, price, size...) so predicting the time of adoption isn't easy. Possibly this year if everything goes okay.

    Ivy Bridge's chipset (Intel 7-series) will support USB 3.0 natively so Macs should have USB 3.0 in early 2012 at the latest (assuming Apple does not replace everything with LP)
     
  6. altecXP macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    #6
    I'll be happy even if its 2.66C2D standard and 1440x900 display. A Core i would be a nice bonus.
     
  7. WardC macrumors 68030

    WardC

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2007
    Location:
    Fort Worth, TX
    #7
    I see the major thing that the 13" MacBook Air has over the MacBook Pro currently is the 1440x900 native resolution (1280x800 is simply not enough), and yes, the built-in SSD which is standard.

    For these reasons alone, I wouldn't want a 13" MacBook Pro. The only real advantage the Pro has over the Air at this point (other than Ethernet and FireWire) is the ability to upgrade to 8GB of RAM and have an optical drive internally. Yes, you might say you can add a large internal hard drive or a 512GB SSD to the MacBook Pro also. But, standard, as most people have it, it has a slow 5400rpm HD and you can't upgrade the display past 1280x800 resolution, which is the same as the White MacBook.
     
  8. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #8
    I would consider the ability to have +256GB of storage for a reasonable amount of $ to be one of the major reasons why people buy the 13" MBP instead of MBA. Some people may not be ready to fork out 1599$ for the MBA with 256GB just to get the bigger SSD which is as big as the HD in 1199$ MBP.
     
  9. ECUpirate44 macrumors 603

    ECUpirate44

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Location:
    NC
    #9
    Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't USB 3 just a faster USB? Light Peak on the other hand seems to be a one shop stop port. Charging, connection, display, ect.
     
  10. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #10
    Basically, USB 3.0 is just faster than USB 2.0 though it does provide more power as well (900mA vs 500mA IIRC). In theory, Light Peak provides lots of things but a lot is up to the industry and how it adopts LP. On paper, LP sounds better of course
     
  11. ECUpirate44 macrumors 603

    ECUpirate44

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Location:
    NC
    #11
    It will be interesting to see who wins this one. Reminds me of Blu Ray Vs. HD DVD.
     
  12. Invisible Elf macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2011
    #12
    The other advantage the Macbook Pro has over the Air is the damn fine external hardware and aluminium. I'm in love with the Macbook Pro.
     
  13. NickZac macrumors 68000

    NickZac

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2010
    #13
    USB3 on my next computer will not be an option. USB3 is stupidly faster than USB2 and already, USB3 items are showing up in brick and mortar stores. Given we have fast hard drives, lightning fast SSDs, massive print jobs, huge levels of data, etc, it is a technology that will be well utilized. Also, the new MBPs should use SATA3 and if not this next gen, then certainly the next. You will not be maximizing the newer SSDs without SATA3.

    The next MBP also needs to have HDMI that does sound and video. That is an industry standard and there is no reason for an Apple to not have it. Even the newer digital headphone ports are showing up on some laptops. For MBPs, which are used by video and music professionals, having HDMI, and maybe even an optical out, makes complete and total sense.
     
  14. orfeas0 macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2010
    Location:
    Athens, Greece
    #14
    what? what? wait , what about the processor?
     
  15. Hellhammer Moderator

    Hellhammer

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2008
    Location:
    Finland
    #15
    Only marginal (~12%) difference. Anyone who needs the extra CPU power is better off with the 15" MBP
     
  16. alust2013 macrumors 601

    alust2013

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2010
    Location:
    On the fence
    #16
    It already has this. You just need a fairly inexpensive adapter for MDP -> HDMI (have to make sure it supports audio), and any MBP from the current generation will output sound through HDMI. Also, they have included optical out for some time now, as I know mine has it. It's combined with the headphone jack, so all you need is a mini-toslink cable.
     
  17. NickZac macrumors 68000

    NickZac

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2010
    #17
    I guess the 13s don't have the optical:confused:
     
  18. torbjoern macrumors 65816

    torbjoern

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2009
    Location:
    The Black Lodge
    #18
    I couldn't care less about USB 3.0, as my external HDDs are all mechanical anyway. I never use FW either, but Ethernet would be nice if included.

    Anyway, it's the backlit keyboard (correction: a lack thereof) which keeps me away from buying a MBA. Since Apple has included this "10-dollar-feature" in all previous revisions, I see no reason for them to suddenly skimp on it. After all, the ultimate 13" MBA costs $1800 in the U.S.
     
  19. Miss Terri macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2010
    Location:
    US East Coast
    #19
    I'd like a complete mash-up that I know will never happen. I can still want, though :cool:

    Plastic body with rounded edges (no worries about dents, anodizing coming off, etc.)

    Firewire (must have my target disc mode)

    External battery monitor

    Long-life battery

    SSD sounds nice (have never used one though)

    Backlit keyboard

    Those are the biggies.

    Also nice,

    Ethernet

    SD card

    I find that the only times I'm using the optical drive are for installing software and watching movies. Since I hook up external speakers for the movies... having an external optical drive seems like it would be fine. Just one more thing to chuck in the bag.

    Basically, I guess I want a plastic Air with Firewire, external battery monitor, and backlit keyboard :) I wouldn't mind if it were a tiny bit thicker, say halfway between the Air and the Pro.
     
  20. htc fan macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Location:
    Ottawa
    #20
    The Macbook air doesn't have an optical drive, don't people find this silly a laptop without optical drive:p
     
  21. Mangos86 macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    #21
    I would be REALLY happy with the 13" mbp if....... It could effectively print me currency in small untraceable denominations.
     
  22. nateo200 macrumors 68030

    nateo200

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2009
    Location:
    Northern District NY
    #22
    I would be happy with my new 13" MBP if it would censor out all the useless threads with people complaining about how there MBP they purchased isn't a MacBook air or at least randomize a cocky response automatically...
     
  23. WardC macrumors 68030

    WardC

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2007
    Location:
    Fort Worth, TX
    #23
    Hey, I didn't say I don't like the MacBook Pro. My next purchase WILL BE a MacBook Pro -- but it will be the 15" model, not the 13" one. I don't think 1280x800 resolution is a fair compromise for having a more compact package. The technology for having a 1440x900 display and something better than a Core2Duo is there, and Apple isn't offering it in the 13"...at least yet.

    Yes still, having 8GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD and an optical drive, and yes, onboard Ethernet and FireWire 800 are all fair advantages that the 13" MacBook Pro has over the 13" MacBook Air....but you are still stuck with a pixelly, glossy 1280x800 display!!! But all in all, it's not THAT bad, but still Apple could be offering higher resolution on their PRO model...when they DO offer it on the 13" MacBook Air, which is a lesser-grade of laptop.
     
  24. torbjoern macrumors 65816

    torbjoern

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2009
    Location:
    The Black Lodge
    #24
    We cannot know for sure yet if the upcoming 13" MBP (if any) will have the same resolution as the current 13" MBP (1280x800) or 13" MBA (1440x900). The latter is more likely, i.e. 1440x900 for the 13" MBP. I'm also fairly sure that the upcoming 15" MBP will have 1680x1050 by default.
     
  25. rmitchell248 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Liebsthal, Germany
    #25
    so what you want is the macbook air pro LOL just wait a few months I hear its on its way
     

Share This Page