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kaintxu

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Hi all,

We are starting to see many reviews, video of people benchmarking the i9 9900k with the Vega 48. This is great and actually being extremely indicative and so fat I have only seen 1 case where the fans ramp up and can be properly heard and no thermal throttle at all.

BUT for me, the i9 is a little bit of overdoing it. I don't really do that much heave loaded work. Maybe running some R scripts, maybe a bit of photo editing, but that's about it, so I'm really interested in seeing some i5 results.

Anyone who has received the i5 (ideally both 580x and Vega as I need to chose one as I do like a bit of gaming) can run some Geekbench and cinebench with the intel CPU app open to see how it performs?

Cheers
 
That's the one I am waiting for too. The i9 Vega combo is a bit out of my league and needs, so yeah curious before I hit the order button.

Agree here, I Do want to upgrade one of the 2, GPU or CPU, but really need to decide on which.

For now I Know the i9 is not ramping the fans nor getting "too" hot. but again, thats with the vega 48. Everyone seems to be able to put down the money for the max config and no one even bother with i9 prox 580x, and even less with the 9600K?
 
Everyone seems to be able to put down the money for the max config and no one even bother with i9 prox 580x, and even less with the 9600K?

I don't understand that myself. The BTO prices are simply unfair - most of the time I rule them out simply on principle. It should not be more to add something via BTO than I can go out and buy the part for retail.

This time around I found the top model (w) 512GB SSD to be a pretty good value and not wholly unfair, so I went with that one.
 
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I'd like to see some reviews of the i5 9600k and 580x combo too. Especially with respect to any significant thermal issues. Just don't think I really need the i9 and/or Vega. I think I'd get more benefit from more ram and a larger ssd. What I've seen would suggest the 9600k is roughly in the ballpark of the i7 7700k and i7 8700. I don't game and to this point I've been doing any serious video editing that would get much benefit from a higher speced gpu.
 
Saw on posted by someone on Reddit for Cinebench on the 9600k. Weird that it thinks there are 3 cores and six threads. Should be 6 cores. FYI, the Core i9 scores 4069 with the same Vega CPU compared to 2487 on the Core i5. That's quite a difference!
 

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I just ran Cinebench on my i5 9600K w/ 40GB RAM and the 8 GB Radeon 580X. I can confirm Cinebench thinks there are 3 cores and 6 threads. My geekbench single core score is 5773, multicore score is 23633, and Open CL score is 119723. I upgraded from a late 2013 21.5" iMac with core i7.
Could you please tell when your fans kick in, how loud are they?
Are they similar to the YouTube video reviews of the i9 + vega?

Thanks
 
I just ran Cinebench on my i5 9600K w/ 40GB RAM and the 8 GB Radeon 580X. I can confirm Cinebench thinks there are 3 cores and 6 threads. My geekbench single core score is 5773, multicore score is 23633, and Open CL score is 119723. I upgraded from a late 2013 21.5" iMac with core i7.

Thanks for the Infos! To compare them: My iMac 2017 i7-7700K with 40GB RAM and Radeon 575 (4GB) has the following results: Single core score is 5816, multicore score is 20167, and Open CL score is 113383. So only the multicore score has a little bit improved but for me the single score is more important.

So I see no reason to upgrade the 2017 iMac also because everything else is the same (display, design, case, interfaces, even the low resolution FaceTime camera....)
 
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I just ran Unigine Heaven benchmark 4.0. High resolution / Normal Tessellation - FPS: 33.8, Min FPS: 10, Max. FPS 61.9. Ultra resolution / Normal Tessellation - FPS: 27.1, Min FPS: 9.3, Max. FPS 49.6. CPU temp was in the high 60s - low 70s
[doublepost=1553971427][/doublepost]Just reran Cinebench and monitored the Intel Power Gadget App. Max temp reached was 95 with the fans on very low. Max core speed was 4.2.
 
Thanks - Wonderful to see some temp numbers on this model. keep us posted as you continue testing - especially any sustained full load temps :)!
 
Agree here, I Do want to upgrade one of the 2, GPU or CPU, but really need to decide on which.

For now I Know the i9 is not ramping the fans nor getting "too" hot. but again, thats with the vega 48. Everyone seems to be able to put down the money for the max config and no one even bother with i9 prox 580x, and even less with the 9600K?

Upgrade the GPU, since you cannot do that later on, but you can upgrade the CPU since it is socketed. Down the road, you can either do it yourself, or pay someone to do it... the GPU is forever, once you place the order.
 
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I just ran Cinebench on my i5 9600K w/ 40GB RAM and the 8 GB Radeon 580X. I can confirm Cinebench thinks there are 3 cores and 6 threads. My geekbench single core score is 5773, multicore score is 23633, and Open CL score is 119723. I upgraded from a late 2013 21.5" iMac with core i7.

Could you do this a few times (cinebench) at the same time you have the intel power app open so we can see how the processors work (what frequenzy they settle at with 95W limit), the energy consumption and temperatures? A few of us would be greatful, but it does have to be run a good 5-10 times to actually record good results.

I know you have already done it, but could you after performing cinebench a few times, share a screen shot of the inter power app

Thanks for the Infos! To compare them: My iMac 2017 i7-7700K with 40GB RAM and Radeon 575 (4GB) has the following results: Single core score is 5450, multicore score is 17447, and Open CL score is 113383. So only the multicore score is noticeably different but for me the single score is more important.

So I see no reason to upgrade the 2017 iMac also because everything else is the same (display, design, case, interfaces, even the low resolution FaceTime camera....)

Does make sense for you not to update, but those numbers are great. as far as I know the i7 was the upgraded version from 2017, the base version from 2019 has better performance, so that is quite good.

Upgrade the GPU, since you cannot do that later on, but you can upgrade the CPU since it is socketed. Down the road, you can either do it yourself, or pay someone to do it... the GPU is forever, once you place the order.

You can always upgrade the GPU with an eGPU, though I think they are crazy expensive
 
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Does make sense for you not to update, but those numbers are great. as far as I know the i7 was the upgraded version from 2017, the base version from 2019 has better performance, so that is quite good.

Yes, that are good numbers but this is only the "base" version of the highest end 27" 2019 iMac. The 8. Gen i5 looks a little different compared to the 2017 i7....
 
92 degrees, ouch. I'd much rather the fans kicked in and kept it before 90.

Just curious: why is that a problem? My 2011 i7@2.2GHz MBP goes to approx. 95 degrees, my 2015 i5@2.9 GHz MBP to over 100 during Cinebench R20, so 92 is actually not too bad IMHO.
 
I re-ran Cinebench R20 8 times and here's a screen capture of Intel Power App. The fan did come on, but it was not obtrusive.

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Thanks a lot for this, it is really appreciated and what I have been after.

Seems that the i5 is running quite well to be honest. Will wait and see a few more numbers but I think I will do i5 + vega 48
 
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I re-ran Cinebench 10x in a row and this time including the fan speed. Max speed was 1850 rpm.
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Here's a screen capture
 
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