i7 on Air seems pointless...

Blackberryroid

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What's the i7 for?

The MacBook Air is built for everyday tasks, does that need i7?

i7 is for intense stuff, but then again, you can't recommend the Air for that because it isn't built for intense stuff. So, what's the point of the i7?
 

TheRealDamager

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You seem to be on a roll of interesting posting.

The Air is a very capable machine for it's size and weight. There are plenty of use cases (video manipulation, etc) where the i7 makes sense. I would agree that for the average user, it won't be worth the extra cost.
 

Mrbobb

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Am going to be the devils advocate here, because it's fun. :)

In high fidelity audio, there is a thing called HEADROOM, and it relates to how much reserve power an amplifier has WHEN IT NEEDS IT. Because NOBODY really play at hundred of watts of power all the time as some of these amplifiers are capable of delivering. But having extra Headroom gives an amplifier that "liveliness" that audio enthusiasts price.

U may not need an I7 all-the-time, nor maybe the smallish machine is capable of delivering full I7 power all-the-time. But having an I7 means, for those occasions when an I5 is maxed out (choked) an I7 can still function without freezing.

Am sure I took some snake oil liberty there somewhere. :)
 
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jbzcar

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Nope, that's proof that the Air doesn't need i7, unless you want a MacBook Pro with worse performance, more expensive but dramatically thinner, which is the reason I have a MacBook Air instead of the Pro.
If you don't feel it is necessary, then stop worrying about it. It is not going to go away just because you feel it is unnecessary.
 
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Abazigal

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What's the i7 for?

The MacBook Air is built for everyday tasks, does that need i7?

i7 is for intense stuff, but then again, you can't recommend the Air for that because it isn't built for intense stuff. So, what's the point of the i7?
Your assumption here is that a MBA cannot be used (or at least, is extremely unsuited) for higher-end tasks. This is simply untrue. A quick search on the internet turns up tons of examples of people using their airs for processor-heavy activities like music/movie editing, photoshop, programming and web development.

The air is as thin as it is not because Apple cut corners in the hardware spec department, but simply through removing parts which they felt most people wouldn't miss and extremely efficient engineering (cd-drive, soldering ram), and these moves won't impact how well your laptop runs one bit.

There's definitely this persistent misconception that the macbook air is somehow apple's version of the netbook. That is incorrect. The closest thing they have to a netbook would be the ipad. The air is definitely not inferior to any other laptop on the market performance-wise.

There is clearly a market for people who prize both portability and high specs, and for this group at least, they would find it worthwhile to upgrade to a faster processor.

Nope, that's proof that the Air doesn't need i7, unless you want a MacBook Pro with worse performance, more expensive but dramatically thinner, which is the reason I have a MacBook Air instead of the Pro.
tell that to all the other people who bought airs with upgraded processors, and are thoroughly enjoying the noticeable speed increase when encoding media. :)

You are either very misinformed, or as your nick hints, some sort of troll (but to your credit, still a fairly mild and personable one).
 

SuperJudge

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So, what's the point of the i7?
So that it's there when you need it.

I went with the i7. Most of my heavy lifting is done in a data center or with my quad-core ThinkPad. However, when I'm compiling stuff locally, I like having that extra bit of horsepower on tap so that I don't feel like I'm waiting forever. It's probably all psychological, but it was only an extra $100. Seemed worth it to me.

Besides, the Air is plenty good for more than just "everyday tasks." It's amazing how little machine you need for just "everyday tasks."

:rolleyes:
 

utahusker

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Am going to be the devils advocate here, because it's fun. :)

In high fidelity audio, there is a thing called HEADROOM, and it relates to how much reserve power an amplifier has WHEN IT NEEDS IT. Because NOBODY really play at hundred of watts of power all the time as some of these amplifiers are capable of delivering. But having extra Headroom gives an amplifier that "liveliness" that audio enthusiasts price.
Unless you're in the low power tube amp combined with horns camp :). Sorry to stray off topic, carry on.
 

Calot

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Pointless if you only use your Air to watch porn and send confusing e-mails to supple young boys.

If you ever dream of playing anything, converting videos, or editing large files, the i7 is PROVEN to be 15-20% faster than the i5.
 

BigMcGuire

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Pointless if you only use your Air to watch porn and send confusing e-mails to supple young boys.

If you ever dream of playing anything, converting videos, or editing large files, the i7 is PROVEN to be 15-20% faster than the i5.
Wait, so you're telling me that my porn will be 15-20% faster if I had gotten an i7 instead of an i5?! DAMNIT!
 

Blackberryroid

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Who says it isn't built for intense stuff?
Would you recommend the Air to gamers? To people who renders in AE, Motion and FCPX? To people who are using Logic Studio? To Artists who needs real-time music processing (with hundreds of sound layers and tweaks) on MainStage? To 3D modelers with 3DS Max? To photographers with 5000 RAW pictures? To Photoshop-ers who needs to work with bill-board ads that are probably somewhere in 4096x2160 at 300PPI with hundreds of different layers at different opacity and hundreds more of filters?
 

aristobrat

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Would you recommend the Air to gamers? To people who renders in AE, Motion and FCPX? To people who are using Logic Studio? To Artists who needs real-time music processing (with hundreds of sound layers and tweaks) on MainStage? To 3D modelers with 3DS Max? To photographers with 5000 RAW pictures? To Photoshop-ers who needs to work with bill-board ads that are probably somewhere in 4096x2160 at 300PPI with hundreds of different layers at different opacity and hundreds more of filters?
Yes. They'll need a light travel machine to go along with their Mac Pro. :rolleyes:

The only "intense" stuff I do is occasionally export videos from iMovie and rip things with Handbrake. The i7 gets the job done faster.
 

jbzcar

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Would you recommend the Air to gamers? To people who renders in AE, Motion and FCPX? To people who are using Logic Studio? To Artists who needs real-time music processing (with hundreds of sound layers and tweaks) on MainStage? To 3D modelers with 3DS Max? To photographers with 5000 RAW pictures? To Photoshop-ers who needs to work with bill-board ads that are probably somewhere in 4096x2160 at 300PPI with hundreds of different layers at different opacity and hundreds more of filters?
I wish I had the free time to troll MacRumors like you are.
 

iAppl3Fan

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I'll take the extra power from the i7 for virtual machines and video encoding on the air when needed. Since I upgraded the ram I might as well do the processor as well too.
 

pickleydoo

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Would you recommend the Air to gamers? To people who renders in AE, Motion and FCPX? To people who are using Logic Studio? To Artists who needs real-time music processing (with hundreds of sound layers and tweaks) on MainStage? To 3D modelers with 3DS Max? To photographers with 5000 RAW pictures? To Photoshop-ers who needs to work with bill-board ads that are probably somewhere in 4096x2160 at 300PPI with hundreds of different layers at different opacity and hundreds more of filters?
Yes
 

mrsir2009

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Would you recommend the Air to gamers? To people who renders in AE, Motion and FCPX? To people who are using Logic Studio? To Artists who needs real-time music processing (with hundreds of sound layers and tweaks) on MainStage? To 3D modelers with 3DS Max? To photographers with 5000 RAW pictures? To Photoshop-ers who needs to work with bill-board ads that are probably somewhere in 4096x2160 at 300PPI with hundreds of different layers at different opacity and hundreds more of filters?
Sure why not? :D
 

aerok

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Because you shouldn't. They should be using at least the MacBook Pro 13. If you can afford a MacBook Air with i7, you can surely afford a MacBook Pro 13, which is better in performance.
Actually for Aperture, the SSD makes a world of a difference vs the MacBook Pro 13...