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i9 vs i7

jonnysods said:
Random thought - maybe apple did this on purpose so they can make a cooling pad. They will announce it soon, then release it in 2021.
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Or they did this so they could sell more of their eGPUs the blackmagic. Could be anything. Either way, we’re all waiting for 1, more conducive evidence and 2, for Apple to admit there is an issue and figure out a way to eliviate the excessive throttling. As mentioned before problably won’t amount to too much of a difference but could be better than nothing.
 
mr.anthonyramos said:
Or they did this so they could sell more of their eGPUs the blackmagic. Could be anything. Either way, we’re all waiting for 1, more conducive evidence and 2, for Apple to admit there is an issue and figure out a way to eliviate the excessive throttling. As mentioned before problably won’t amount to too much of a difference but could be better than nothing.
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Short of a redesign of the computer I don't know what they could do here. The i9 is hot in every computer it goes in. Firmware won't fix it...
 
jonnysods said:
Interesting video.


The i9 is gimped in this model. I may get the i7 now!
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I just find this a bit to swayed (biased). Look at the photo on the screen. It shows a sunset (yellow sun) and red surroundings. Automatically our brains think of heat (hot). If that photo had been one of a snowy landscape with blues indicative of stillness and intense cold, our minds would be less associative to the heat issue. So I do believe this may have been a plant....just saying.
 
Alright guys, my i9 finally arrived today. Loaded up Final Cut and it exported my project 50% faster than last years 2017 i7. And performed 10% faster than the Base i7 I tested in the Apple Store yesterday. Playing back h264 videos was a lot faster than the Base 8-Core iMac Pro. Best thing was that it was whisper quiet during operation, whereas last years 2017 i7 and my 2016 13" would hit the fans hard during an export.

Posted up the perf video on my channel for proof. Still need to do a lot of testing to validate the results, but that's what I have so far.
 
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ashcairo said:
Alright guys, my i9 finally arrived today. Loaded up Final Cut and it exported my project 50% faster than last years 2017 i7. And performed 10% faster than the Base i7 I tested in the Apple Store yesterday. Playing back h264 videos was a lot faster than the Base 8-Core iMac Pro. Best thing was that it was whisper quiet during operation, whereas last years 2017 i7 and my 2016 13" would hit the fans hard during an export.

Posted up the perf video on my channel for proof. Still need to do a lot of testing to validate the results, but that's what I have so far.
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These are the real world tests we are looking for @stringerhye.
 
ashcairo said:
Alright guys, my i9 finally arrived today. Loaded up Final Cut and it exported my project 50% faster than last years 2017 i7. And performed 10% faster than the Base i7 I tested in the Apple Store yesterday. Playing back h264 videos was a lot faster than the Base 8-Core iMac Pro. Best thing was that it was whisper quiet during operation, whereas last years 2017 i7 and my 2016 13" would hit the fans hard during an export.

Posted up the perf video on my channel for proof. Still need to do a lot of testing to validate the results, but that's what I have so far.
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This is great thanks for the input on this.

Do you use istat? Curious what the temps are.
 
jonnysods said:
This is great thanks for the input on this.

Do you use istat? Curious what the temps are.
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Hey mate not yet, currently my MacBook is down for probably a good few hours doing a TimeMachine restore. Once it's back up I can fill you in.

Just saw your earlier question. For me I'd always go for more RAM / SSD, as the difference between the base i7 and the i9 is small (need to do more testing). For example generally using Final Cut the experience is the same, it's only when it was doing an export or render that it was 6.5-12.5% faster against the base model - still need to confirm hiw the mid i7 performs?

I really need to test it more once its back up as maybe when I have more apps running in the background it'll hit a certain load and throttle badly? Or maybe if I tried to export a very long video it'll hit a load and throttle?

Then again more RAM might cause the battery to dry up faster? Annoying how you can't just buy the best specs as there's always so many potential gotchas. Or maybe we're all just overreacting. At least Apple provide a 14 day trial period to help. So worst case you have the option of changing your mind as more information comes out and how you find it handles your workload.
 
ashcairo said:
Hey mate not yet, currently my MacBook is down for probably a good few hours doing a TimeMachine restore. Once it's back up I can fill you in.

Just saw your earlier question. For me I'd always go for more RAM / SSD, as the difference between the base i7 and the i9 is small (need to do more testing). For example generally using Final Cut the experience is the same, it's only when it was doing an export or render that it was 6.5-12.5% faster against the base model - still need to confirm hiw the mid i7 performs?

I really need to test it more once its back up as maybe when I have more apps running in the background it'll hit a certain load and throttle badly? Or maybe if I tried to export a very long video it'll hit a load and throttle?

Then again more RAM might cause the battery to dry up faster? Annoying how you can't just buy the best specs as there's always so many potential gotchas. Or maybe we're all just overreacting. At least Apple provide a 14 day trial period to help. So worst case you have the option of changing your mind as more information comes out and how you find it handles your workload.
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Thanks mate appreciate this. I still want the i9. FCPX is what I use for video work, Adobe for graphics and web. Less time rendering the better for me.

I usually plug in for video work, so it will be off the lap and on a stand.

Anything you can add will be appreciated!

And, enjoy the new beast!
 
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ashcairo said:
Hey mate not yet, currently my MacBook is down for probably a good few hours doing a TimeMachine restore. Once it's back up I can fill you in.

Just saw your earlier question. For me I'd always go for more RAM / SSD, as the difference between the base i7 and the i9 is small (need to do more testing). For example generally using Final Cut the experience is the same, it's only when it was doing an export or render that it was 6.5-12.5% faster against the base model - still need to confirm hiw the mid i7 performs?

I really need to test it more once its back up as maybe when I have more apps running in the background it'll hit a certain load and throttle badly? Or maybe if I tried to export a very long video it'll hit a load and throttle?

Then again more RAM might cause the battery to dry up faster? Annoying how you can't just buy the best specs as there's always so many potential gotchas. Or maybe we're all just overreacting. At least Apple provide a 14 day trial period to help. So worst case you have the option of changing your mind as more information comes out and how you find it handles your workload.
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I really wish I could afford another 2.7GHz 32GB model to test myself because I want to know how it stacks up to the i9 in my workflow.
 
I'm going to buy a 15"

My power user apps are Adobe CC (mostly Lightroom, Photoshop, and Illustrator), Logic X, and the design app Sketch.

I'm thinking the 2.6GHz model upgraded to 1TB and 32GB, and maybe the i9 - does that make sense for me?
 
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jonnysods said:
I agree. But a professional is going to be ripped off because it doesn't work as it should. I was going to buy the i9 for my work, but the i9 is DOA.
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So you’re smart and didn’t buy it. The only person at fault who buys a product after reading about its faults is themselves. Even worse if they don’t return the device after 14 or 30 days depending on where you purchased it.
 
mr.anthonyramos said:
Or they did this so they could sell more of their eGPUs the blackmagic. Could be anything. Either way, we’re all waiting for 1, more conducive evidence and 2, for Apple to admit there is an issue and figure out a way to eliviate the excessive throttling. As mentioned before problably won’t amount to too much of a difference but could be better than nothing.
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Apple won’t do much. The i9 is probably going to be the least sold of the 3 different cpus being sold even ignoring the throttling issues. The i9 is over kill for my use case.
 
jonnysods said:
Short of a redesign of the computer I don't know what they could do here. The i9 is hot in every computer it goes in. Firmware won't fix it...
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Dave just posted a video about how it’s done right. You need a thicker case like a gaming laptop to have the heat dissipate and better cooking methods.
 
baypharm said:
I just find this a bit to swayed (biased). Look at the photo on the screen. It shows a sunset (yellow sun) and red surroundings. Automatically our brains think of heat (hot). If that photo had been one of a snowy landscape with blues indicative of stillness and intense cold, our minds would be less associative to the heat issue. So I do believe this may have been a plant....just saying.
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If it was some other YouTube people maybe but Dave is one of the people who prefers Apple products for his use case and I would take his opinion into consideration.
 
wox_ said:
I'm going to buy a 15"

My power user apps are Adobe CC (mostly Lightroom, Photoshop, and Illustrator), Logic X, and the design app Sketch.

I'm thinking the 2.6GHz model upgraded to 1TB and 32GB, and maybe the i9 - does that make sense for me?
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I would save the money and not get the i9 but that’s my 2 cents
 
stringerhye said:
Wow. That thing is as thick as 4 MacBook Pros.
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Yes that’s true but it’s not meant to be portable like a MacBook. It is an easy way to solve the issue though. Don’t think Apple needs to do it that thick but maybe slightly thicker to accommodate better cooling ?
 
Queen6 said:
Fan of anything fast and portable, 8 cores, 16 threads and Vega could prove interesting. Problem being such a notebook is at the very limit of portability.

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If you think the i9 has issues with heat in the MacBook Pro you’ll be having a field day with AMD 8 core CPU’s .
 
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