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Lotus Notes R8

IBM is doing a few good things for the Mac and OS X.

The Lotus Notes R8 Standard Client is Eclipse based and runs on Windows/Linux/OS X. My main complaint is that the Domino Designer for R8 is still only available on Windows.

At least the R8 Standard Client demonstrates that they can develop a single application that will run on the three major platforms..... this is a good trend...

It will also be interesting to see their implementation of Lotus Notes for the iPhone....

Derek
 
Power to the Mac

And now it would be time to bring a high-end Mac with Power processors again.

Give back the alternative to x86 for Mac users!
 
Excellent News!

Now since SameTime 7.5 is available for Mac as well as Windows XP & Linux ... if they can get teh SameTime app ready for the iPhone as well as that new application for Symphony & Domino compatibility then its serious competition ahead.
 
This is big news. I'm surprised nobody see's the longer picture here...

IBM are playing REALLY smart.

As Apple rises and take market share from Microsoft they will need serious enterprise platforms.

We all know Apple themselves have little interest in developing them - so who better than IBM ?

As Apple market share grows - so will IBM's Apple based enterprise solutions.

In short :

10 years from now when Apple has 60% of the world market desktop share - IBM could well have 70% of that Apple enterprise market share - a market Apple who will remain focused on their core OS/HW model are probably more than happy to let them take and make their own...

Mark my words - 5 years from now we'll see Microsoft releasing Exchange X on OSX - just to stay in business!
 
10 years from now when Apple has 60% of the world market desktop share - IBM could well have 70% of that Apple enterprise market share - a market Apple who will remain focused on their core OS/HW model are probably more than happy to let them take and make their own...

Mark my words - 5 years from now we'll see Microsoft releasing Exchange X on OSX - just to stay in business!

Nonsense. MS have released their most poorly received OS for years and Apple's market share has still only increased by about 2% in the US and about 0.5% worldwide.
 
While Java is still heavily used, more companies are turning away from it as it takes too long to do anything and ther hibernate thing. Personally, most companies (believe it or not) are starting to dump Java (although they will still be using it for a long time due to what they have invested). A few companies I was at are looking to turn back to C++, turn to Python, or actually move on to .NET (mostly C#).


I completely agree. Although heavily used, especially in *legacy* projects, Java is still crap. I see a LOT of companies moving back into the MS world of C# and .NET.


But anyrate - with MS you have to buy your programming languages... With Linux/Unix, you have C++, Java, Python, MySQL, and a few others included - so the cost deminishes drastically.

What on earth are you talking about? You do not have to pay to use ANY language, not even MS's bread and butter, C# or VB.net. The entire .NET platform is free to use. The only thing you have to pay for is Visual Studio. Likewise, native win32 C++/MFC/ATL is free, as are implementations of C, Java, Python, PHP, Perl, Ruby, Ada, Fortran, Smalltalk, etc etc..
 
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10 years from now when Apple has 60% of the world market desktop share - IBM could well have 70% of that Apple enterprise market share - a market Apple who will remain focused on their core OS/HW model are probably more than happy to let them take and make their own...

Mark my words - 5 years from now we'll see Microsoft releasing Exchange X on OSX - just to stay in business!
umm... Me Doth Thinkest Thousest daydreameth Too Mucheth.

apple has a niche market, and it will continue to cater to the same market. 60% of world share, do you have any idea what that number is? and nothing currently shows that in 10 years will have that much control. do the math.

where do i find you after 5 years?
 
Here's to hoping they get a license to run Mac OS on their close buddy Lenovo's ThinkPads.

That or just switch to SuSE Linux.
 
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man, I wish I worked st IBM, free mbp for work... It is an intresting move though
 
umm... Me Doth Thinkest Thousest daydreameth Too Mucheth.

apple has a niche market, and it will continue to cater to the same market. 60% of world share, do you have any idea what that number is? and nothing currently shows that in 10 years will have that much control. do the math.

where do i find you after 5 years?

That's exactly my point - Apple will continue to serve a niche market - it has no 'personal ambition' in enterprise but that doesn't mean ti won't help someone who does?..

Currently there is no way IBM can break the MS monopoly on enterprise ( servers and Office for example) on Windows platform but by becoming the only serious player on the Apple platform they could effectively, for the first time, offer a complete enterprise solution that acts as a true alternative to Microsoft. I'm sure Apple will team with them to make sure their products work well.

Now admittedly Apple's market share (depending on source) ranges from 6-8% right now but imagine if IBM began shipping world class enterprise alternatives to MS - entire companies would make 'the switch' -

Now for that market share to begin to seriously take off were talking the jump from selling 10 million macs a year to, say, 30 million - that could easily happen if corporate began a mass 'switch'.

Apple only need to double their own personal market share to dwarf MS in turnover and profit - that put's them in a seriously strong position.

10 years ? well, let's look at a roadmap

Years Now to 2011 - IBM continue to slowly build their platform and trickle a migration towards Apple.

2011 - Apple release next generation OSX in conjunction to support IBM enterprise mass migration. IBM take a few corporate customers with them. That year Apple's consumer/SOHO market share would already be 15% as predicted by most economists right now - so add onto that another 2 million macs for the 'first wave' of IBM. Your now at, say 18% market share.

2012 - Corporate trials complete - Major studies and news stories starts to break across the world. It's official - Apple & IBM = Better enterprise.

Right now NOBODY would say Apple is 'enterprise' king - creativity : yes, personal productivity : yes, enterprise back end solutions : no!

With a unanimous acknowledgment that Apple was finally 'the best in enterprise' the mass migration would begin - and it would come fast.

2013/14 - Microsoft recognise Apple are at 25% market share - there is little they can do to turn back the flow. What do they do - Just in case they release OSX Exchange X - Now they can compete with IBM in enterprise and begin to stem the migration and either way they're still selling millions of copies of Office and now back end server solutions for mac. They can 'hold water' . To ignore the OSX platform at this stage would be suicide.

2017 - Companies have continued to switch during the last 3/4 years. 60% market share achievable...

Of course, Microsoft aren't going to take this lying down but IBM and Apple = unstoppable forces.

Pretty much the only way Microsoft can hold ground now is by continuing their proprietary lock in technique, and buying the internet and making it work only with Vista ( maybe that's why they want Yahoo?)
 
In IBM, there is an Intranet site for Mac@IBM.

Those working in IBM can do a search in W3 with keyword "Mac@IBM".


All applications standard on staff's computer, are available on the Mac. That is MS Office, alternative dialer for AT&T VPN, antivirus, Lotus Notes, SameTime client etc.


Staff can make a request for a Mac laptop but the process is quite lengthy.


All the above had been happening over the pass 2 years.

It's quite surprising on the reaction of people here on IBM's move.

When IBM sold it's PC division, it has set out to separate itself with PC, or rather, a company that has no bias on PC platform. As long as the daily job gets done.


Finally, I would say it is good for IBM to divert its application development onto Mac's platform. It shows the other big guns that Apple is gaining ground and do not miss the boat.
 
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