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iCal is now getting to be pretty handy for personal use. However, it is not a business application. It would be nice to see Apple working on applications that could become parts of an Apple office suite.
 
Detachable drawer?

Umm, I must be missing something obvious. How does one detach the drawer??

edit: I figured it out - go to the Window menu and choose Detach Info . . . and the same to get it reattached.
 
Re: No proxy authentication

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Well, it's still useless for me as it cannot update/subscribe behind a username/password authenticating proxy. (It even has an error dialog that says it cannot do it.)

If they want this thing to compete with Outlook, they really need to start thinking about people who work in large companies with such networks. (iSync and iTunes both choke for the same reasons - even though the settings are present in the network proxy properties)

No offense intended to Apple or anyone else, but it seems to me that iCal isn't ready for the big time, for several reasons. Compared to Entourage, it still seems pretty anemic. It works fine for me (self-employed, and I only have to sync with my wife's iBook), but I have a hard time imagining a mid-to-large-size, mixed-platform company depending on it. I'm guessing the more honest folks at Apple would agree.

I'm not complaining -- it's still a very young app, and overall, I'm pleased with how much Apple is investing in development of these "free" apps. I can't help thinking of some of the stupid accessory apps included in Windows that haven't changed appreciably in ten years.
 
Re: Re: No proxy authentication

Originally posted by splashman
No offense intended to Apple or anyone else, but it seems to me that iCal isn't ready for the big time, for several reasons. Compared to Entourage, it still seems pretty anemic. It works fine for me (self-employed, and I only have to sync with my wife's iBook), but I have a hard time imagining a mid-to-large-size, mixed-platform company depending on it. I'm guessing the more honest folks at Apple would agree.

I'm not complaining -- it's still a very young app, and overall, I'm pleased with how much Apple is investing in development of these "free" apps. I can't help thinking of some of the stupid accessory apps included in Windows that haven't changed appreciably in ten years.

With all due respect, iCal is not meant to compete for the mid- to large-sized comapany market. It's an "i" app, meaning it's for the consumer market, not the professional one.
 
Re: Re: Re: No proxy authentication

Originally posted by Wilhelm
With all due respect, iCal is not meant to compete for the mid- to large-sized comapany market. It's an "i" app, meaning it's for the consumer market, not the professional one.

Absolutely!

From Apple's mission statement:
Apple is committed to bringing the best personal computing experience to students, educators, creative professionals and consumers around the world through its innovative hardware, software and Internet offerings.

They have (and may never) no intention on competing with outlook. Also, the tag line for the new iLife is "Like Microsoft office for the rest of your life." They are not competing WITH office or any other mass business offerings.
 
Originally posted by jesus h christ
By God I hope they fixed the lame excuse for a To-Do list. Not allowing you to print just a To-Do list sucked. To-Do entries that had past disappear forever... Great! We'll see if those issues have been fixed.

...

Nope, still can't print JUST a To-Do List. They do have options now that will let you change when the To-Do's are removed, etc. Still needs some work IMHO.

JHC.

Both of those features have been in iCal before this update. You could always specify never to remove To Do items, and I'm pretty sure you could always specify (in the "iCal" section of the Print panel) to just print To Do items.

originally posted by cubist
Multiple time zones - I just complained about that last month! As they say, Woot!

This was also in a previous iCal update... this is nothing new to iCal 1.5.2. It seems like people haven't been looking in their preferences enough. ;)

The only thing that really changed with this update is that you can have the drawer detached again like it used to be before iCal 1.5. The update specifically says performance and reliability enhancements, but I haven't seen anythingh specific changed in this area.
 
iCal1.5.2

20th Anniversary!!! G5 upgrades!!!! Apple Store renovations!!!! Powerbook upgrades!!!! New displays!!!!!

It's like Christmas morning, waking up and finding you got.... socks.

iCal1.5.2?

uh....thanks grandma. don't know what I could've done without it.

blllllaaaahhhh
 
I still wish there was a way, and if there is please let me know, to view to do items by month and to have to do items, like bills, repeat every month.

It is getting better but I feel that there is still a ways to go. Love the draw being separate again.
 
Re: Re: No proxy authentication

Originally posted by splashman
No offense intended to Apple or anyone else, but it seems to me that iCal isn't ready for the big time, ...but I have a hard time imagining a mid-to-large-size, mixed-platform company depending on it.

EARTH to DUDE. It's called iCal, not proCal or incCal.

Get it? Got it? Goooood.

:p
 
Sigh . . .

Originally posted by Tue12
EARTH to DUDE. It's called iCal, not proCal or incCal.

Get it? Got it? Goooood.

:p

Yeah, I got it from a couple of earlier posts . . .
 
iCal alarms: they finally work!

update, while modest, is most welcome. as others have stated, alarms FINALLY work like they should. They even go off if iCal is not running. (Before they rarely went off even when iCal WAS running.)

Haven't tried them during sleep. My guess is they'll go off as soon as you wake from sleep
 
I'm finding it a lot more difficult to input data compared to 1.5.1

In the New Event title section I have to input the data twice, it won't accept what I've typed the first time around. I'm also finding it a real p.i.t.a to just double click on an appt and edit it. I'm having to have to right click on the appt and choose Show Info to do any editing.

So far it's been a dissapointing January from Apple :(
 
possible bug

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but with 1.5.2 I can no longer double-click an event bar to access the info window/drawer. (In previous versions, you had to click just so, or else you'd just select the text in the bar.)

You can right-click on the bar and choose "Show info" from the contextual menu, but still ...

Of interest: Previously existing events (like subscribed holidays, which are read-only events) still double click and open info just fine.

This has to be a bug ...
 
iCal 1.5.2 - its FREE, thats good for me

U'd still like to see rendezvous Calendar sharing, but I am sure thats coming in v2.0
 
iCal is still too slow when switching from week to month view. It takes ~2 seconds on a 1.25GHz PB. It should be instantaneous. This is a lame update.
 
Slow switching

Originally posted by pyknosis
iCal is still too slow when switching from week to month view. It takes ~2 seconds on a 1.25GHz PB. It should be instantaneous. This is a lame update.

Interesting. The switch is almost instantaneous on my dual G4, and a bit less than 2 seconds on my wife's iBook G3 600. Not sure if the amount of data has anything to do with it. Our calendars are sync'ed, and there's quite a bit on there, but maybe we've got a lot less entries than you.

I agree that a 2-second response time is pretty lame, especially on a top-of-the-line PB.

I suppose somebody is going to remind me again that iCal is a CONSUMER app, not a BUSINESS app, right?
 
Re: Re: No proxy authentication

Originally posted by splashman
No offense intended to Apple or anyone else, but it seems to me that iCal isn't ready for the big time, for several reasons. Compared to Entourage, it still seems pretty anemic.

Hmm. You know, TextEdit just ain't ready for Prime Time either. I mean, just fire up Word and you'll see how pathetic TextEdit is!

For those who haven't figured it out yet:

iCal is NOT a business scheduling application. It is NOT intended to replace the likes of Outlook or MeetingMaker. It's not going to find mutually-free time slots for meetings. It's not going to address reserving a conference room. It's not going to give you one-click messaging to all your guests when the meeting time/place changes.

iCal is for a single person's calendars, and potentially for drawing in other peoples' calendars in the occaisions where their calendar directly affects your life.

Yes, you could use it as a poor man's Outlook. Set up your own iCal server (iCal is an open and non-Apple protocol, you all realize, right? You can set up an iCal server inside your firewall if you need to. You can even expose that to your home PCs through a VPN or proxy or DMZ.) Have everyone subscribe to everyone else's calendars so everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Whatever. It'd be a mess with more than three or four people, but doable I suppose. It's certainly not the design focus of iCal at all, though!
 
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