ICC profile for 17" MBP?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by graln1k, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. graln1k macrumors member

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    I have a 17" SR Macbook Pro, and I was wondering if any of you guys had a good ICC color profile. I would like for the whites to be whiter, because it seems like everything is sorta washed out. I tried calibrating and it improved it quite a bit, but I want to see what you guys have accomplished.
     
  2. dante@sisna.com macrumors 6502a

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    Color Profile Tutorial

    Hello, I appreciate your desire for a good ICC color profile, but your question begs several others, such as 1) What is your Macbook being used for (ie., Print, web, games, etc) and 2) If "everything is sorta washed out" then WHY would you want your "whites to be whiter?" This is a contradiction as, generally whiter whites from brightness increase will wash things out further. Now if your Whites have a color cast, then this is one thing, but it is separate from the washing out.

    ICC color profiles, for the Laptop monitor, are used to translate color conversions from "input profiles" (ie, cameras, scanners, etc) through the operating system (ie, colorsync and OS X) to the Output Device (ie, printer, video out, etc).

    To say you want a "Better" color profile for this macpro really reflects your lack of understanding of true color management -- I don't mean this in any way negatively or personally, but just as truth regarding the science of color management.

    Your MacPro has a build in Monitor ICC profile from Apple which is loosely built to translate colors to SWOP (offset press) simulation standard. You can "calibrate" it in Colorsync utility, but again, what is you goal -- this is the key! Do you want pleasing colors for gaming, better simulation of an oil painting that you scanned for reproduction in a book or magazine, etc.

    You should calibrate your monitor to match your goal. If you are printing in a magazine, ask the magazine producer to send you a printed copy and corresponding digital file. Open the digital file and calibrate your monitor to match the printed magazine (assumes future issues will be printed exactly as the piece you are using as a reference). Save this profile in Color -- You have just built a crude ICC profile for your monitor.

    If it's gaming, dial in the monitor to please your eyes or to match a friend's system that you like. Violia' you calibrated your monitor again.

    If you want better results, invest in an optical calibrator. This will build a better Print Based calibrator with "truer" colors.

    But to ask for someone else's ICC profile for your monitor is simply not a good idea. No two monitors are the same, nor are other people's goals.

    Google Color Management, ICC, SWOP to learn more about this very complex topic.

    Hope this helps.

    Dante

    PS-- I do this color thing for a living everyday.
     
  3. graln1k thread starter macrumors member

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    I use my system for Final Cut Pro. How should I calibrate for that.
     
  4. basqarl macrumors regular

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    Dumb question? What does the SR mean in SR MBP?:confused:
     
  5. dante@sisna.com macrumors 6502a

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    Video is a tricky bear for calibration of Apple LCD's.

    You have two options: 1) you can adjust it via colorsync calibration to create a pleasing color spectrum that you like and that views well on other monitors that play your video (assuming you have any control over this.), or 2) you can calibrate it to broadcast reference standards such as NTSC gamut -- this second step is a lot more involved, requires an external calibrator, and possible reference source (Such as a CRT monitor that is NTSC certified.)

    Start with this article on color LCD monitors for broadcast and google some "Monitor Color Calibration for Broadcast Video." This should get you pointed in the right direction.

    http://www.studiodaily.com/studiomonthly/tools/ultimatekit/8158.html

    Dante
     
  6. Luis Ortega macrumors 6502a

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    Hi Dante,
    I have a question. I have a Spyder 2 color calibration device that has produced good results with the monitor attached to my PC. I also had good results with it on my Dell laptop before getting the MBP.
    Do you know if that device is useable on a MBP or with Macs in general?
    I also plan to get a Mac Pro soon and will be using the monitor I currently have attached to the PC and I'd like to be able to keep using it.
    Thanks for any advice.
     
  7. Luis Ortega macrumors 6502a

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    santa rosa- it refers to the new c2d processor used.
     

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