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iChat AV Beta and iSight
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I think I'll be waiting for the final version of iChat AV before upgrading. Maybe by that time I will have met some better looking friends. 
Busy in Another Conference Problem
I think I have narrowed down the cause of the erroneous "Busy in another conference" dialog. It seems that if your TCP/IP is configured via DHCP, you cannot do AV chat with someone getting their DHCP configuration from the same place. This would include people on the same router--as in my case--or others in the same area with the same ISP--as others have mentioned.
Configuring TCP/IP manually enabled Rendezvous AV chat to work. Of course, it also disabled my internet access. If there is anyone else out there who can confirm these findings, I would appreciate knowing about it, and encourage them to submit a bug report to Apple, via "Provide iChat Feedback" in the iChat menu. I would be especially interested to know if configuring manually solves the problem for people not on the same network, but using the same ISP. Of course, your ISP would need to provide the information for manually connecting.
This is obviously a bug, and makes AV chatting over Rendezvous useless to almost anybody. Hopefully Apple will have this fixed very soon.
I think I have narrowed down the cause of the erroneous "Busy in another conference" dialog. It seems that if your TCP/IP is configured via DHCP, you cannot do AV chat with someone getting their DHCP configuration from the same place. This would include people on the same router--as in my case--or others in the same area with the same ISP--as others have mentioned.
Configuring TCP/IP manually enabled Rendezvous AV chat to work. Of course, it also disabled my internet access. If there is anyone else out there who can confirm these findings, I would appreciate knowing about it, and encourage them to submit a bug report to Apple, via "Provide iChat Feedback" in the iChat menu. I would be especially interested to know if configuring manually solves the problem for people not on the same network, but using the same ISP. Of course, your ISP would need to provide the information for manually connecting.
This is obviously a bug, and makes AV chatting over Rendezvous useless to almost anybody. Hopefully Apple will have this fixed very soon.
Odd, rogueimage, my gf and I tested out audio chat last night, both running off Airport on my home network. DHCP from same place and it worked fine...
Might be a peculiarity of your ISP/firewall.
PS. You did open port 5298 for all Rendezvous participants, right?
Might be a peculiarity of your ISP/firewall.
PS. You did open port 5298 for all Rendezvous participants, right?
I switched my LAn from DHCP to manual a while ago simply because i'm in Cisco and we learned subnetting and i was eager to try it out.
The idiots guide to subnetting is simple:
1) Get the IP Address of your modem (can be done from your router's config website)
2) Get your ISP's DNS servers (comes from the same place mostly)
3) Switch router to manual from DHCP
4) Assign your macs IP addresses from 192.168.0.2 through .9
5) Subnet mask of 255.255.255.240
6) Enter in your DNS servers
7) Enter router address as 192.168.0.1
Make sure your router is set to be 192.168.0.1 on your LAN port
That should do it, Rendezvous always worked for me, but its fun having manual IP addresses, seems to speed up locating network servers too
The idiots guide to subnetting is simple:
1) Get the IP Address of your modem (can be done from your router's config website)
2) Get your ISP's DNS servers (comes from the same place mostly)
3) Switch router to manual from DHCP
4) Assign your macs IP addresses from 192.168.0.2 through .9
5) Subnet mask of 255.255.255.240
6) Enter in your DNS servers
7) Enter router address as 192.168.0.1
Make sure your router is set to be 192.168.0.1 on your LAN port
That should do it, Rendezvous always worked for me, but its fun having manual IP addresses, seems to speed up locating network servers too
Do you mean open that port in the OS X firewall? I don't have my firewall turned on, since I'm using a router.
First of all, will this work with a cable modem which may or may not connect to the ISP using a static IP? Second, we usually have eight computers (six Macs, two PCs) connected to our network at a minimum. Can I use higher numbers than .9, or go to xxx.xxx.1.1, -1.2, etc. for IP addresses? Finally, out of curiousity, why that particular subnet mask?
So when I read: 56k or *more and a USB Mic or internal or analog mic required for voice chat... Does *more mean ethernet? I chose not to get a 56K modem in my new tower... on account of I never bring it anywhere and I have DSL.
OK to answer your questions:
1) Subnetting your computers and assigning static IPs will work regardless of the connection method required for your modem to get online (provide a conncected modem and your router does the rest)
2) Sorry about the limit, but I had to look up the IP chart i did for my own subnetting (it's all very specific). Given a subnet of 255.255.255.240 it's actually recommended you use the IP range 192.168.0.17 though .30 if you do 192.168.1.x it won't work btw. For whatever reason a lot of routers (my own in fact) seem to work with 192.168.0.2-.9 which shouldn't be but is. Go figure.
3) Subnet mask is 255.255.255.240 because it represents you want to use 16 bits of your internet IP to subnet into your LAN. It gets complicated but it's a C class IP subnetting scheme. Just make sure you enter in everything like i said and it *should* work (subnettng really is a pain so i hope i didn't mess anything up. if it fails, revert to DHCP)
EDIT: I found a mistake. If you use 192.168.0.1-.9 use a router address of 192.168.0.1
If you use 192.168.0.17-.31 use a router address of 192.168.0.17.
just made that mistake on my own Lan, im working hard to get stupid iChat to work grrr
I tried out the audio part of iChat tonight with a friend who lives in Cali. I'm in NY and let me tell you it was crystal clear. It worked flawlessly. I absolutely loved it.
Good job Apple.
Good job Apple.
audio chat is nice
I'm in Michigan and have an Audio Chat
with my buddy in San Jose. It worked like a dream. FULL DUPLEX and no delay or echoing. Really nice.
I just ordered 2 iSights. The price isn't too bad considering its firewire AND it has sound. I was looking at some other firewire webcams and they were 99bucks with out a microphone.
I'd also pay a little extra for something with and apple logo in it..
I'm in Michigan and have an Audio Chat
with my buddy in San Jose. It worked like a dream. FULL DUPLEX and no delay or echoing. Really nice.
I just ordered 2 iSights. The price isn't too bad considering its firewire AND it has sound. I was looking at some other firewire webcams and they were 99bucks with out a microphone.
I'd also pay a little extra for something with and apple logo in it..
Then I just have crappy luck. I can't connect to anyone reliably (only got 4 chats working behind the router)
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help, MasterX OSiX (Nick, I presume?) I was able to get the router working, with the computers accessing the internet, without DHCP. I did it the way you suggested, and also by simply using the numbers the router automatically assigned to my computer before turning of DHCP. Both worked as far as TCP/IP and network connections.
Unfortunately, Audio chat still didn't work over my LAN, or over AIM between two of my computers. It seems the router itself is the problem. It's an Asanté router. I wonder if anyone else is having problems with that brand.
Thanks for the help, MasterX OSiX (Nick, I presume?) I was able to get the router working, with the computers accessing the internet, without DHCP. I did it the way you suggested, and also by simply using the numbers the router automatically assigned to my computer before turning of DHCP. Both worked as far as TCP/IP and network connections.
Unfortunately, Audio chat still didn't work over my LAN, or over AIM between two of my computers. It seems the router itself is the problem. It's an Asanté router. I wonder if anyone else is having problems with that brand.
Copying DHCP settings to manual is a popular trick, sorry i forgot to mention it. I tried both ways and still can't get iChat to work (NETGEAR Firewall router)
Re: Is iSight good for anything else?
the isight is also compatible with Quicktime Broadcaster. I bought the isight today and already ran a sample broadcast stream. very cool.
Final Cut Pro 4 also recognizes the isight microphone for voice over recording.
i'm still looking around to see what else recognizes the camera. supposedly, the installation of ichat av enables other apps besides ichat to recognize the camera.
the isight is also compatible with Quicktime Broadcaster. I bought the isight today and already ran a sample broadcast stream. very cool.
Final Cut Pro 4 also recognizes the isight microphone for voice over recording.
i'm still looking around to see what else recognizes the camera. supposedly, the installation of ichat av enables other apps besides ichat to recognize the camera.
Yes, the OS X firewall. It warns you when you start iChat if you have the firewall on and tells you to open the port.
linksys router setup
hi all i saw that some ppl were having trouble with their routers and I've been helping some of my friends get it setup.
I'm not too sure on how to set it up with DHCP enabled, but I did get it working perfectly with Static IP's.
I've setup a little tutorial with screenshots on my server for my friends and thought it might be a good idea to share.
--MB
router setup
the landing page for the router really shouldn't change too much just make a note of the device ip and the subnet mask. the device ip is your routers ip addy. The macs that are on you network can be any ip you choose after the routers ip.
ok now the DHCP needs to be disabled and you need to set the # of users to 0 or the DHCP is not truly disabled. you can add the DNS #'s in the fields also.Click Apply.
now you need to set it up in the network prefs. like above configure is set to manual. Now you need to set you IP addys. For example: my ip is 192.168.1.2 and dans is 192.168.1.3 ::: no 2 macs or devices can have the same IP. Click Apply.
Now with the old firmware version you can't lable the ports. so you just need to fill in the port ranges that are above. Also the TCP and UDP are in a drop down menu: choose both. then enter the ip address of the macs that you want to use the ichat with. Click Apply.
hi all i saw that some ppl were having trouble with their routers and I've been helping some of my friends get it setup.
I'm not too sure on how to set it up with DHCP enabled, but I did get it working perfectly with Static IP's.
I've setup a little tutorial with screenshots on my server for my friends and thought it might be a good idea to share.
--MB
router setup
the landing page for the router really shouldn't change too much just make a note of the device ip and the subnet mask. the device ip is your routers ip addy. The macs that are on you network can be any ip you choose after the routers ip.
ok now the DHCP needs to be disabled and you need to set the # of users to 0 or the DHCP is not truly disabled. you can add the DNS #'s in the fields also.Click Apply.
now you need to set it up in the network prefs. like above configure is set to manual. Now you need to set you IP addys. For example: my ip is 192.168.1.2 and dans is 192.168.1.3 ::: no 2 macs or devices can have the same IP. Click Apply.
Now with the old firmware version you can't lable the ports. so you just need to fill in the port ranges that are above. Also the TCP and UDP are in a drop down menu: choose both. then enter the ip address of the macs that you want to use the ichat with. Click Apply.
my iSight
i just had my iSight delivered - its awesome! It gets a little hot... but its sweet looking, quality is top notch. only gripe: here @ work, the flour light turns things a bit green - including me. i wish there was a control to panel to manually adjust the color balance, etc.
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i just had my iSight delivered - its awesome! It gets a little hot... but its sweet looking, quality is top notch. only gripe: here @ work, the flour light turns things a bit green - including me. i wish there was a control to panel to manually adjust the color balance, etc.
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AhmedFaisal
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The fact that iChat only supports AIM makes the video part virtually useless for me..
Most of my friends have PCs and AIM doesn't support video yet so basically iChat ist useless in the Video part for me. Unless Apple jumps over its shadow and releases an iChat for Windoze I have to stick to Yahoo Messenger for Video, damn.
Cheers,
Ahmed
Most of my friends have PCs and AIM doesn't support video yet so basically iChat ist useless in the Video part for me. Unless Apple jumps over its shadow and releases an iChat for Windoze I have to stick to Yahoo Messenger for Video, damn.
Cheers,
Ahmed
iChat's great even without iSight
I used my JVC HR-DVS2 FireWire DV/VCR and sent excellent video and audio (from a VHS tape, title not to be revealed) over cable broadband across town. Quite possibly the coolest thing I've done in a while.
Anyone know how much power the iSight will draw off a laptop battery?
I used my JVC HR-DVS2 FireWire DV/VCR and sent excellent video and audio (from a VHS tape, title not to be revealed) over cable broadband across town. Quite possibly the coolest thing I've done in a while.
Anyone know how much power the iSight will draw off a laptop battery?