General iCloud 2 Factor Authentication

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  1. alanplum macrumors member

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    Just to be clear, I mean two factor authentication not two step verification.

    Just wondered who out there has now got this switched on?

    My mate at work managed to get his turned on (he's in UK)

    Mine just keeps saying it's not available for my Apple ID at this time.

    I've probably tried 4 different people with no joy.

    And yes...all my devices meet the criteria.
     
  2. rorschach macrumors 68020

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    I believe that even if all your devices are eligible, it's still being rolled out in waves. You just have to wait. I'm in the same boat.

    (Also the support article says "other criteria will be used to determine availability" -- i.e. Other than just having updated software. They don't say what.)
     
  3. jpgr15 macrumors 6502a

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    Excuse my cluelessness, but what is the difference?
     
  4. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    From what I understand, two-step verification is just when the second factor of the login process is something like a code sent to your email or through a text message, whereas two factor authentication requires a physical object, be it a SecurID, a pop up on your phone (what iCloud does), or something like a finger scanner or Smart Card.

    However, Apple bundles that under one roof, so I'm not sure what OP is asking about.
     
  5. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    you can find articles about the two on apples site if you google.

    the practical difference seems to be:
    two-step sends a code to you to enter on the device you're signing in on.
    two-factor sends a confirmation dialog and button to a 2nd device.

    but please correct me if wrong.
     
  6. whsbuss macrumors 68040

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    Problem with two-factor is it eliminates the recovery key piece. So if you have to restore an account you must go thru Apple support. I may be wrong but that's what I understand.
     
  7. alanplum thread starter macrumors member

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    I take it from the lack of responses that no one has managed to turn two factor authentication on then.

    Looks like it's still a waiting game.
     
  8. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    You could help clear up confusion about it in the meantime
     
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  11. PNutts macrumors 601

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    Nope. You take it wrong. As you mentioned in your original post, some people have been able to turn it on. It's just that you've already been given the answer to your question and there's not much more to talk about.
     
  12. alanplum thread starter macrumors member

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    No I have not been given the answer to my question. My original question was

    Just wondered who out there has now got this switched on?

    So I am asking people to respond if they do or don't.

    So in my mind, there is more to talk about.

    If you don't won't to contribute to this thread, then hop on.....
     
  13. PNutts macrumors 601

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    You answered your own question, even though you got it wrong.
     
  14. alanplum thread starter macrumors member

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    Fine, I'll rephrase the question.....

    Has any member of these forums (with the exception of my mate Dave and the troll known as PNutts) managed to switch on 2 Factor Authentication?

    If so, can you let us know when you were able to?

    Many Thanks
     
  15. webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    Enabled it a few minutes ago, I had been using Two-step Verification.

    I turned off Two-step verification on appleid.apple.com, Two-factor was then available on my iPhone.
     
  16. alanplum thread starter macrumors member

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    Congratulations, you're one of the few by the looks of it.

    Mine still wont turn on.

    I'd love to know what the rollout schedule is? I'm on another thread which talks about...

    When you created your Apple ID
    Rollout by surname
    Rollout by geo
    etc...

    Doesn't seem to be any visible structure to it.
     
  17. whsbuss macrumors 68040

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    Are you saying you have to turn off 2-step first BEFORE 2-factor is available? How would one know if 2-factor is available for their AppleID?
     
  18. webbuzz, Nov 10, 2015
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    webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    I had been trying since Two-factor was announced. You can try by turning Two-step off and always turn it back on if Two-factor isn't available.

    If this helps
    Apple ID was created ~ 2009 or 2010
    Surname is within first 5 letters of Alphabet
    United States


    That is the only way the option appeared for me. Not saying that is the way Apple intended.
     
  19. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    FYI: I turned two-step off on appleid.apple.com, setup secret questions and saved the profile change. On my iPhone if went back to iCloud-ID-Security and selected the two-factor activation option. Setup took about a minute to complete. Keep trying for the option.
     
  20. peterinjapan macrumors newbie

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    Can verify, this worked for me when I accessed through appleid.apple.com, that's the way to get it to work.
     

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