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iCloud Backups Not as Secure as iOS Devices to Make Restoring Data Easier
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Most email is encrypted in transit today (both between user and email servers and between the major email providers), so it's not that easy to intercept emails on the open Internet anymore. But the email providers themselves are of course able to intercept them (and store them on their servers anyway in most cases).
This case has never been about that specific iPhone, to begin with. It's all about constructing a precedent under the smoke screen of islamic terrorism and national security.
I've been avoiding iCloud because of Apples track record of failure so serious even Steve Jobs admitted publicly that MobileMe was Apple's greatest failure. While slightly better I'm still not trusting Apple's iCloud.
Besides for years I've maintained my own server with Synology DiskStation Multibay NAS. Five terabytes of secure storage.
I do enjoy the convenience of Google Drive to store current non-personal files that I share with family and friends. That's my preferred way of safely using a cloud, a method that has worked very well over the last five years.
Besides for years I've maintained my own server with Synology DiskStation Multibay NAS. Five terabytes of secure storage.
I do enjoy the convenience of Google Drive to store current non-personal files that I share with family and friends. That's my preferred way of safely using a cloud, a method that has worked very well over the last five years.
This is why I don't trust Apple, though of course they're more trustworthy than any gov agency.
But Apple should encrypt iCloud storage in such a way that they cannot access it themselves if they really care about customer privacy.
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But Apple should encrypt iCloud storage in such a way that they cannot access it themselves if they really care about customer privacy.
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The guy worked for the local government and it was a work phone. A report said he destroyed his personal phone. There's no evidence whatsoever on this iPhone, the FBI is simply trying to get people to rally behind them.
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It also revealed the incompetence of the FBI. Somebody changed the password on the iCloud back up within 24hours of getting the phone. Apple suggested taking the iPhone to a known Wifi network which would have allowed an updated backup to be created, but since the password was changed, that strategy didn't work.
news for everyone else. not news for me who *read* the TOS
If everyone actually read this they would have known cloud backup, like any cloud service Dropbox, MS One drive, the all must decrypt and comply.. If a cloud service existed that couldn't (and wouldn't) comply at all,,, that would be a first.
You are probably right too.... Whats the point of a backup service, if Apple doesn't keep copies of their own ? We keep hearing 3-2-1-backup analogy... but i'd be surprised if cloud services don't do that do.... If they only kept your data and no backup elsewhere, wouldn't that going against their own business?
If everyone actually read this they would have known cloud backup, like any cloud service Dropbox, MS One drive, the all must decrypt and comply.. If a cloud service existed that couldn't (and wouldn't) comply at all,,, that would be a first.
You are probably right too.... Whats the point of a backup service, if Apple doesn't keep copies of their own ? We keep hearing 3-2-1-backup analogy... but i'd be surprised if cloud services don't do that do.... If they only kept your data and no backup elsewhere, wouldn't that going against their own business?
I've sort of acknowledged the "surveillance system" by intentionally going by an alias and not giving away true information about myself. And apparently it works, if targeted ads think I'm an 80-year-old grandma and are trying to sell me completely irrelevant products.I guessed that already, but now it's a fact on public record. The only 'safe' solution is to delete all our iCloud backups data, and not use any iCloud services.
But here is the problem! Apple is increasingly integrating iCloud services deep into its iOS and Mac OS X. It's almost impossible to use Apple products without iCloud. This is scary...
We're all already trapped deep in total surveillance by the NSA and god knows by whom else. The orwellian society is real!
I feel like a chimp sitting in a zoo while constantly being watched. Welcome to the 21st century's privacy striptease.
The only way out of our modern tech zoo is going low-tech and to move to an isolated island, dig a cave there (beware spy satellites), and hide there forever.
But here is the problem! Apple is increasingly integrating iCloud services deep into its iOS and Mac OS X. It's almost impossible to use Apple products without iCloud. This is scary...
Scary as hell.... but what do u do when u only have 64gig iOS and u have cloud storage that keeps growing as appetite to store more data ? Convenience still and always win.
And that's why i do what i do...
no real info anywhere... i am not getting anything delivered why does Apple need to know my payment info, or shipping details for other than just convenience of being "there"?
not everything u CAN avoid,,, but for the most part, u can.
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I've always backed up to my laptop. Never the cloud. Only sensitive data that goes via iCloud syncing is my 1Password keychain, which is separately 256-bit AES encrypted with an alphanumeric master password. Maybe They can get at my email somewhere in IMAP land, but I sleep pretty well at night.
Exactly right! We don't know for sure whether that silent backup option is already in our phones, because Apple had to comply with the USA PATRIOT Act.
It even makes sense, because we all probably experienced already running into the 'free' 5 GB limit on iCloud.
Lol storing a backup of a phone in a bank vault? Seriously?
unless you go to the bank every week then that backup seems a bit pointless to me. Am I missing something? Do people keep life critical things carried around with them on their mobile phone *and nowhere else*? (A backup of a full computer operating system is different, but the stuff stored on my phone at least is much more current...)
You probably have never been robbed or had fire in your house?
Apple does encrypt to store in the cloud, but the only way i know is Apple never to decrpt since u only have the keys is to encrypt yourself, but users don't do that because its easier to just upload.
Alternately just use File Transporter
or everyone get gets a NAS.
Alternately just use File Transporter
or everyone get gets a NAS.
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I guessed that already, but now it's a fact on public record. The only 'safe' solution is to delete all our iCloud backups data, and not use any iCloud services.
But here is the problem! Apple is increasingly integrating iCloud services deep into its iOS and Mac OS X. It's almost impossible to use Apple products without iCloud. This is scary...
We're all already trapped deep in total surveillance by the NSA and god knows by whom else. The orwellian society is real!
I feel like a chimp sitting in a zoo while constantly being watched. Welcome to the 21st century's privacy striptease.
The only way out of our modern tech zoo is going low-tech and to move to an isolated island, dig a cave there (beware spy satellites), and hide there forever.
It's been public and published by Apple for their users' knowledge. Very transparent and nothing secret about it. People just don't read. And shame on Walt Mossberg if he didn't already know this.
I thought I read somewhere that Apple is slowly moving to fully encrypt everything (ie including iCloud) but imagine it's quite a project and pieces of it will be done as it gets tested and then released.
I'm slow to adopt stuff and keep my devices for a few years before updating and don't use the cloud except for find my device and to get News since it apparently resides there and the only way to view it I think. I do enjoy using Apple's News app. Those are the only 2 things I use it for. For backups I've always used iTunes and it's just been easy enough to keep doing so right now. You can always go into your iCloud settings and select what you want to use the cloud for.
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As with some other users here, I thought this is not new/news. And the same applies to most cloud services, for obvious reasons.
Anyway, I don't use iCloud backup because it's slooooow. Unless I have gigabit broadband access, I will never use iCloud backup. And it's not 100% foolproof either. Just read about users having problems restoring when they wanted to do a full restore. Heck, even local iTunes backup is not bug free either (being stuck at steps 6 or 7 issues).
This brings me another point how the iPad will not be able to be a totally PC replacement despite its features if I would still be forced to rely on backing it up on a PC.
Anyway, I don't use iCloud backup because it's slooooow. Unless I have gigabit broadband access, I will never use iCloud backup. And it's not 100% foolproof either. Just read about users having problems restoring when they wanted to do a full restore. Heck, even local iTunes backup is not bug free either (being stuck at steps 6 or 7 issues).
This brings me another point how the iPad will not be able to be a totally PC replacement despite its features if I would still be forced to rely on backing it up on a PC.
good selective quoting. If you reread, I don't think a phone backup is analogous to a computer backup where that behaviour would be appropriate.
What content do you create and store in a phone, except for contacts, text messages etc and photos? Contacts and calendar events, many use cloud services for anyway. Will old messages be a huge loss? Very much dependent on the person.
Are you going to go to the bank to retrieve this backup before making any os updates? And then return it? Or make another to take there first? What if you take a beautiful photo of a swan on the way and it's lost forever because your backup is actually a few hours old at installation
All I'm saying is, the practicalities of backing up a phone and putting it in a bank vault seem to make it kind of like bottling up sunshine in case it's a rainy day.
I heard SpiderOak has a "zero-knowledge" policies backups. It means their backup system is set up in a way that even if they wanted to see your files, they can't.
If I delete my iCloud backups, they will still not delete them?
If I delete my iCloud backups, they will still not delete them?
I guessed that already, but now it's a fact on public record. The only 'safe' solution is to delete all our iCloud backups data, and not use any iCloud services.
But here is the problem! Apple is increasingly integrating iCloud services deep into its iOS and Mac OS X. It's almost impossible to use Apple products without iCloud. This is scary...
We're all already trapped deep in total surveillance by the NSA and god knows by whom else. The orwellian society is real!
I feel like a chimp sitting in a zoo while constantly being watched. Welcome to the 21st century's privacy striptease.
The only way out of our modern tech zoo is going low-tech and to move to an isolated island, dig a cave there (beware spy satellites), and hide there forever.
Not to make you even more paranoid but in case you missed it, Maryland public busses already record passenger conversations... https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5e1d1e-df36-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html
And police in Hartford are lobbying for not just surveillance drones, they want ARMED drones... http://fox61.com/2016/03/01/police-appeal-to-lawmakers-for-future-options-on-arming-drones/
What could possibly go wrong?