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Agreed but I'll give apple the benefit of the doubt since the Mac version of Photos is meant to be a replacement of Aperture not this.

Anxiously waiting how it compares to Aperture.

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Put your stuff in DROPBOX, make an effort to clean it every once in a while, back it up = who needs the cloud?

Apple is on the outside of what is going on service wise, price wise, speed wise and the list goes on.

Dropbox is cloud :)

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iCloud is expensive and useless, unless you don't know any better.

you just called everybody else stupid just because something else worked for you ... how stupid is that?
 
This is Revolutionary!

What's with these sarcastic comments on MacRumors ?

Are you trying to tell us here that Apple shouldn't have implemented the Zoom and Email features unless they invented a revolutionary comparable ?
 
True, it is cheap, but it's the principle of the thing! ;) I just feel Apple is getting behind, just like with the Apple TV. Say what you will about Google, but they are way ahead of Apple with cloud solutions.

And Apple are way ahead of Google when it comes to building hardware.

Google's first and core product is built around managing data online. As they've expanded, they've naturally opened more cloud services.

The same as Apple with hardware products. :)

If Google hadn't bought Android and started competing with Apple, we could have Google services on Apple phones... The best of both worlds! Imagine if instead of putting "the weight of the company" behind fixing Maps, Apple put it's weight behind other things, and used Google Maps.
 
Forget global terrorism, corrupt governments and the fact that Germany has still shown no remorse. This is real news.
 
I agree, they should give us more storage if we have more devices :D
But the 20GB plan is only 1$ per month, which isnt bad

It's not bad. The problem (for me and my 2 iOS devices) is that I need a smidgen more than 5gb. 10gb for free would be nice. You've got enough to sample what it has to offer but not enough to store all your photos, music, etc on it.
 
They need to make an app for icloud drive. I still have to upload documents to google drive.

You can download "Documents" by Readdle for iOS - it is a file manager that works with iCloud drive.

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What's with these sarcastic comments on MacRumors ?

Are you trying to tell us here that Apple shouldn't have implemented the Zoom and Email features unless they invented a revolutionary comparable ?

I think it's sarcastic because they are adding more and more features to the website... but there's no Mac app yet!
 
If you want to save money on cloud services, set up a dedicated IP [static IP address at home], set up a NAS, turn on WebDAV services for you, and store your files you want everywhere via the NAS.

Sync the Mac to the NAS and test out how well those symlinked folders in your iCloud Drive map to your NAS.

Exactly wht I do, using a Synology DiskStation. Advantage is that it works in heterogenous environments (the two of us have a PC, a Mac, an iPhone, and iPad and an Android phone - how much worse can it get :) ?).
Disadvantage is that the DS Photo apps are no way as reliable as iCloud in terms of upload of new photos, often don't log in for unknown reasons, and viewing photos that are only stored on the NAS often causes long delay (30 secs login, 10 seconds login second try, 20 seconds hard disk spin up from sleep, a few seconds per picture download speed due to the limited upload speed at home).

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Anxiously waiting how it compares to Aperture.

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Pretty surprised that the rumor mill is totally silent regarding Photos. Not a single leak after Apple's official screenshots.
 
Wheres Photos for Mac?

Mac obviously is really low-priority at Apple now.

How long has Apple had time to do something with that application, I mean it's not like they have been super busy with iPhoto or Aperture :rolleyes:

The fact that Photos for Mac didn't even ship with the damn OS, let alone in sync with iOS 8 is a disgrace.

You can't sugar-coat this, but Apple's idea of photos in their ecosystem is awful compared to the big words of passion Steve Jobs had about photography and what it meant to him.
Yes, this is post-Jobs Apple, but photography turned from high to mid priority to the thing they kind of have to drag around.

So the cameras get better on their mobile devices? Big whoop, of course they do, just like any part in their fleet eventually something gets the incremental bump, sometimes a high bump indeed, but I really don't see a big effort here.

Photo storage and editing still is best done on a Mac, not an iPhone and not an iPad, at least for a lot of people, enough people to warrant higher priority for this issue, especially as Apple usually doesn't like half-assed releases.

The dumbing down of software however, that's typical and I'm not getting my hopes up for Photos for Mac, I just want to see what it can and cannot do.
Most likely it'll need another year or two to get some of its biggest features.
Canning Aperture at version 2 would probably have helped here. :rolleyes:

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Apple and Photos just seems to be a difficult thing.

I got my in-laws an iPad to replace their ageing laptop since all they used it for was photos and internet.

So, I transferred all their photos to the iPad using iTunes.

Now, fast forward a couple of years, and those photos synced from iTunes can't be touched. They can't be edited, renamed, moved etc.

They aren't even backed up I realised, much to my horror. Thank god the iPad hasnt gone tits up.

I thought, ah hah! iOS 8 and iCloud Photo, it will back up all the photos!

Nope.

"There are photos on your device that are synced to another library and will be deleted if you activate iCloud Photos".

Balls.

So I go to get them all off the iPad and onto my Mac.

Nope. It only lets me transfer photos that were added to the iPad after the sync. So almost exactly half the photos wont show up.

My only option is to upload every god damned picture to OneDrive, then wipe the iPad and then download from OneDrive, and then activate iCloud Photo.

Cheers Apple. Good Job.

And then, the icing on the cake. The total photos are bigger than the free tier of 5GB, which is pathetic, considering the backup includes apps, music, emails etc. Meanwhile, the photos are uploading to OneDrive and their 20GB? free space. You would think to adequately backup a 16GB iPad to the only backup source available (built in iCloud) they would actually allow you to. "Sorry, you can only backup 1/4 of your device for free, please give us more money on top of your expensive purchase to safely backup your whole device kthxbye, love Apple".

Like seriously, why the **** can you not backup your iPad to a Time Capsule????????
The only things that can back up to a TC is Mac. You can back up your iPad to iTunes which is then backed up to a TC. My problems would be solved by simply replacing in-laws router with a TC. Then I can rest assured that their iPad is safe.

Anyway, rant over. I hope they change things. The icloud website needs to be lighter and much better because it's just for show at the moment to be honest. Use Outlook and OneDrive or Google Drive and Inbox online and you just cant look at iCloud as serious.
 
Pretty surprised that the rumor mill is totally silent regarding Photos. Not a single leak after Apple's official screenshots.

Apple hardware leaks are more common than software leaks because of all the different vendors in the supply chain. Software stays completely on the Apple campus, so leaks can be very tightly controlled.
 
You can download "Documents" by Readdle for iOS - it is a file manager that works with iCloud drive.


Thanks for mentioning "documents". Do you by chance know of an app that will let you scan documents and share it directly with icloud drive?

edit: NM, it looks like readdle makes that app too :)
 
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Thanks for mentioning "documents". Do you by chance no of an app that will let you scan documents and share it directly with icloud drive?

Yes - Genius Scan+ supports iCloud drive, among many other cloud options. iCloud drive is near the bottom of the list when you hit the share button after scanning a document.
 
I'm starting to feel like Apple is moving at a snails pace. They seem really slow at doing stuff.
 
I would prefer they release the new OS X photos app so I can decide if I need to move from Aperture to Lightroom before they discontinue supporting the best photo organization and touch-up-editing app I've ever used.
 
Zoom and email? Busy week in Cupertino? /s

SMH at how unready Apple is compared to all the other photo cloud/app options that exist today.
 
It's not bad. The problem (for me and my 2 iOS devices) is that I need a smidgen more than 5gb. 10gb for free would be nice. You've got enough to sample what it has to offer but not enough to store all your photos, music, etc on it.

Well what isnt bad is the 20GB a month for $1 plan. Granted, more free is always better than paying for it! Im just saying a dollar for a significant amount. Its not something I complain about. But I do hesitate to think what will happen when the Photos app comes out for the mac and I move my iPhoto library to the cloud. That alone is 70GB. Im hoping Apple will re-price its tiers with iOS 9 OSX.11. More free storage would be great!
 
I'm still waiting on iMessage on iCloud.com.

- Each of my family members use iMessage and nothing else (so no FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc)
- My work area is basically a bunker without cell service.
- I can get to iCloud.com, no problem
- The best I can do right now is Google Voice SMS to my family members, but often they forget the fact that I have no cell service, so when I finally leave work, I get tons of messages saying "hey", "whats up?", "why dont you ever txt back?", etc...
 
How about actually leaving the photos in the cloud regardless if I delete one from my iPhone or iPad?

Has Apple outlined a backup strategy for iCloud Photo Library yet? How do you back up your photos?

Apparently the "backup strategy" is requiring you to keep copies of all your photos (at some given resolution) on all your devices.

Edit: Brought to us by the same guy that designed iTunes Match?
 
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What's with these sarcastic comments on MacRumors ?

Are you trying to tell us here that Apple shouldn't have implemented the Zoom and Email features unless they invented a revolutionary comparable ?

Days/weeks/months go by while people eagerly wait for what will become the promised iPhoto/Aperture replacement, then Apple releases small, iterative features for the iCloud.com website? (Now with more email and more zoom!)

It leaves people with the feeling that the replacement Photos App project isn't getting the care and feeding something of that magnitude deserves. Especially from a company with the available financial and engineering resources that Apple possesses.
 
Very nice - I've moved over to a combination of iCloud/self-hosted email and they're very much surpassing anything Google can offer!

Keep it up :apple:!
 
Please elaborate.

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First, iCloud is not _expensive_. Just because it's not as cheap as competing offers doesn't mean that it's expensive. Good, now we have that out of the way.

Please tell us how it's inflexible?

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For everyone against the idea of or complaining about the price of cloud storage, check out BitTorrent Sync! Peer-to-peer file transfers. Same great experience and integration that these cloud solutions are trying to provide, but without cloud part. :)

If you don't need a whole lot of storage iCloud's options are actually way better than Google or Dropbox anyway.

Dropbox: free for 2GB or you can do some tricks to get about 6GB free (without referring friends). Then the only option outside of that is 9.99 for 1TB.

Google: Free up to 15GB, 1.99 for 100GB, 9.99 for 1TB.

iCloud: Free up to 5GB, 0.99 for 20GB, 3.99 for 200GB.

If 1TB is unnecessary (which it definitely is for me), then at that point your only real options are Google's 100GB and Apple's 20GB and 200GB options, depending on how much storage you need and how many dollars a month you want to spend.
 
Where is the photos icon on iCloud.com? I'm not seeing it....do I have to enable iCloud Photo Library (Beta) in iCloud settings on my iPhone?

If I do and understand correctly, it will remove the syncing with iTunes and the photos will be in iCloud Photo Library. Sorry to be late but is this replacing My Photo Stream where photos taken and put in the camera roll are automatically backed up? Does it include video (size limitations)? Thanks!
 
I would prefer they release the new OS X photos app so I can decide if I need to move from Aperture to Lightroom before they discontinue supporting the best photo organization and touch-up-editing app I've ever used.

100% this.

They don't even show you what you're waiting for!

Laughable, especially if you consider they quickly took away your iPhoto app on iOS 8, didn't even tell you about it beforehand, so then all you had was the option to export your images and then delete the app.
Non-destructive edits, yeah, but the edits never synched to anything and they certainly didn't preserve their non-destructiveness on that forced iOS 8 export.
Thankfully I never invested any time into the app, but come on...

But those too blind to see Apple's mistakes will only chant the growth numbers, their revenue and profits and anti-competition songs. :)
Let's hope Apple never bites them. :p

Glassed Silver:mac
 
I stick with Office 365. 5 copies of Office for Mac or PC and 1 TB of storage for 9.99 a month. No reason to bother with icloud for storage of documents or photos.
 
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