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Statiq!

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Apr 12, 2012
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So yesterday I purchased the iPhone 6 Plus 16GB from T-Mobile and got home to set it up an hour later. When I connected it to iTunes I was surprised to see that I had 5.34GB of used space already eaten up by "Other" on my new iPhone???... no music on the phone, no photos on the phone, less than 20 cloud based apps (Tweetbot, Instagram etc). I was instantly regretting getting the 16GB version of the 6 Plus.. so I called Apple to see if they could help me get rid of this extra "Other" data that was just sitting there. They specifically told me that iCloud Drive data is not stored on the iPhone and that I needed to restore the phone to get the storage space back. They also gave me this official list of items that cause "Other" space to balloon to this 5GB+ size..

What is "Other?" iTunes has 8 standard data categories listed in the Data Bar of iTunes. They are called Apps, Music, Movies, TV Shows, Podcasts, Books, Photos, and Info. Basically, anything stored on your iDevice that cannot fit into one of those 8 categories is categorized as "Other." This includes:

1 .Operating System
2.Mail cache
3.Mail messages
4.Mail attachments
5.Safari's Reading List
6.iTunes Backups
7.Orphaned files
8.Game data
9.Saved data files
10.Call history
11.Notes
12.Media
13.Voice memos
14.Browser cache

Basically, the longer apps run, the more resources they use, and the more information files are created from that.

Ways to shrink the "Other" space:
-Delete Browser Cache (History and Cookies)
-Delete and re-add Mail accounts (This will remove their saved e-mails from the device, though they will still exist on the servers.)
-Delete extra iTunes back-ups of the same device
-Delete old SMS conversations
-Reset All Settings
-Hard Reset while connected to iTunes



...Foolishly I did a clean restore and found 6.04GB of "Other" data waiting for me once I got back up and running again which ballooned to 9.60GB after adding a few more non iCloud apps. I was pissed and was planning on returning the 6 Plus to T-Mobile (paying the $50 restocking fee) and then wait for 3-4 weeks for the 64GB version.

Then I said let me try this.. I turn off iCloud Photo Stream.. got back 2GBs of space. Progress!! I turned of iCloud Drive 6GB freed.. More Progress!! then i squeezed out another 500mb on some other things in iCloud settings. Now my phone was ready for actual usage and I was relieved.

So the lesson here is keep as much off iCloud Drive folder on your OS X desktop and remember that you can't even use that stuff right now on your iPhone either way without some third party app to access the data. Finally Apple really should have made the entry level iPhone 6s have 32GB storage instead of 16GB.
 

samiznaetekto

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Dec 26, 2009
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Then I said let me try this.. I turn off iCloud Photo Stream.. got back 2GBs of space. Progress!! I turned of iCloud Drive 6GB freed.. More Progress!! then i squeezed out another 500mb on some other things in iCloud settings. Now my phone was ready for actual usage and I was relieved.

So the lesson here is keep as much off iCloud Drive folder on your OS X desktop and remember that you can't even use that stuff right now on your iPhone either way without some third party app to access the data.

You're on the right path. Now you just need to open the door to complete happiness: just flip that damn iCloud switch to OFF!
 

Tiptizzle

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Apr 22, 2011
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So that means Apple made him buy 16gb?

Do you always answer a question with a question?

Why does him complaining that nearly half of his 16GB is unusable mean Apple made him buy it? If he bought 64GB and 32GB was useable would he be allowed to complain then because he paid the Apple tax? What about 64GB on a 128GB model?

Apple used to offer a superior experience, even if you bought the cheapest base model. Since even a few apps, videos and pictures along with "other" make it so you can't even upgrade the OS without a computer I would say it hurts the user experience. Offering the same base 16GB that they offered in 2010 while storage capacity has increased exponentially tells me that Apple cheaped out.

I guess he should have known that Apple was going to start offering subpar user experiences.
 

IndianBird

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Dec 28, 2009
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Do you always answer a question with a question?



Why does him complaining that nearly half of his 16GB is unusable mean Apple made him buy it? If he bought 64GB and 32GB was useable would he be allowed to complain then because he paid the Apple tax? What about 64GB on a 128GB model?



Apple used to offer a superior experience, even if you bought the cheapest base model. Since even a few apps, videos and pictures along with "other" make it so you can't even upgrade the OS without a computer I would say it hurts the user experience. Offering the same base 16GB that they offered in 2010 while storage capacity has increased exponentially tells me that Apple cheaped out.



I guess he should have known that Apple was going to start offering subpar user experiences.


Soooo.....again why didn't he just buy the 64? Lots of folks get by in the 16 gb and lots of folks need more storage. Those folks who need more have the option to buy a 64 or even a 128. Someone who buys 16 and complains because he doesn't have enough storage bought the wrong phone. How is the Apple's fault? They offer higher capacity phones just for such a reason.
 

Tiptizzle

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Apr 22, 2011
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Soooo.....again why didn't he just buy the 64? Lots of folks get by in the 16 gb and lots of folks need more storage. Those folks who need more have the option to buy a 64 or even a 128. Someone who buys 16 and complains because he doesn't have enough storage bought the wrong phone. How is the Apple's fault? They offer higher capacity phones just for such a reason.

Because if half of the storage space wasn't wasted 16GB probably would have been enough? Nice try though! Some people aren't made of money and a 50% premium on a phone is a big deal.
 

IndianBird

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Because if half of the storage space wasn't wasted 16GB probably would have been enough? Nice try though! Some people aren't made of money and a 50% premium on a phone is a big deal.


So Apple didn't cheap out, but your friend did?

That is kind of what this sounded like from the beginning.
 

afsnyder

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Jan 7, 2014
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Apple offered you a feature that you turned on... and your upset with Apple for making it unusable? It's usable. The feature works. What's unusable about the phone? That you can't stick thousands of apps and videos on it? That's kinda what you signed up for when you get a 16gb phone.
 

sviato

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Oct 27, 2010
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iCloud drive isn't really storage, it just mirrors the files from your devices so that you can access them from other devices. Yeah, it kinda sucks and will take up space on your phone.
 
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