iCloud Drive vs Google Drive

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Still disappointed in this department for Apple. Maybe even disappointed in the name those choose to use... Drive... really?

Anyways, iCloud Drive is still not (IMO) ready for real use. For my company, we use Google Apps (Mail, Docs, etc) all synchronized perfectly with live editing, etc. but iCloud Drive really is only good for personal use... no business options? Unless I'm missing something here?

Still a far ways away.
 

mmomega

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Still disappointed in this department for Apple. Maybe even disappointed in the name those choose to use... Drive... really?

Anyways, iCloud Drive is still not (IMO) ready for real use. For my company, we use Google Apps (Mail, Docs, etc) all synchronized perfectly with live editing, etc. but iCloud Drive really is only good for personal use... no business options? Unless I'm missing something here?

Still a far ways away.
True iCloud Drive is not ready for real use since it was just announced in beta form a few days ago and has not been released to the general public. How about we give things more time than 3 days to form that opinion.

Apple does have some background in the cloud drive business as they had iDisk that was around back in 2000, 2 yrs after Google was even founded.

If you can remember correctly gmail wasn't open to the public until after 3 years in beta.
 

cocky jeremy

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You're right, it isn't ready. That''s why it isn't even in beta yet. As for the name, 1) Who cares what it's called? 2) "drive" works perfectly fine considering it acts like a hard DRIVE in the cloud.
 

pmz

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Still disappointed in this department for Apple. Maybe even disappointed in the name those choose to use... Drive... really?

Anyways, iCloud Drive is still not (IMO) ready for real use. For my company, we use Google Apps (Mail, Docs, etc) all synchronized perfectly with live editing, etc. but iCloud Drive really is only good for personal use... no business options? Unless I'm missing something here?

Still a far ways away.
So much wrong with this post.

I laugh at the idea of a company using Google Apps or storage for ANYTHING. Not trying to insult your "business", but good grief. Could you pick something worse?

iCloud Drive looks like it will be exactly what people need. I'm not sure how its supposed to work on iOS yet, need to read a little more into that. I'm guessing 3rd party Apps need to integrate it. Good luck with that, since very few have taken advantage of everything iCloud has offered in the last 2 years.

One thing for certain is that I will be ditching Dropbox (finally) once this is fully available with new pricing tiers.
 

Screenslayr

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So much wrong with this post.

I laugh at the idea of a company using Google Apps or storage for ANYTHING. Not trying to insult your "business", but good grief. Could you pick something worse?

iCloud Drive looks like it will be exactly what people need. I'm not sure how its supposed to work on iOS yet, need to read a little more into that. I'm guessing 3rd party Apps need to integrate it. Good luck with that, since very few have taken advantage of everything iCloud has offered in the last 2 years.

One thing for certain is that I will be ditching Dropbox (finally) once this is fully available with new pricing tiers.
I think you're being a little bias towards google. Google apps is a great product. Tons a companies use it now and it's reliable and easy. It's light years ahead of apples mail and documents. And this coming from an apple fan boy.
 

d21mike

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Still disappointed in this department for Apple. Maybe even disappointed in the name those choose to use... Drive... really?

Anyways, iCloud Drive is still not (IMO) ready for real use. For my company, we use Google Apps (Mail, Docs, etc) all synchronized perfectly with live editing, etc. but iCloud Drive really is only good for personal use... no business options? Unless I'm missing something here?

Still a far ways away.
iCloud is designed and marketed for Personal Use. It is not designed for Business or even Small Business use. So to compare to Google Apps which is designed and marketed to Business is not a good comparison.

With that said, I am very happy with the direction Apple is going. I do hope that in the future they will come out with a Small Business Option for iCloud. i.e. Allow for your own domain names and a way to manage multiple user accounts like you can do with Google.

Lastly, I tried to use Google Apps for my Small Business and decided I mainly did not like the way they do email with labels. But that is mostly a personal preference.
 

Mr. McMac

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I think you're being a little bias towards google. Google apps is a great product. Tons a companies use it now and it's reliable and easy. It's light years ahead of apples mail and documents. And this coming from an apple fan boy.
I agree with you 100%. Just because Apple makes something, doesn't make it better. I'm very happy with google drive. I bought a ChromeBox and got 100gb's free for 2 years on top of my free 25gb's. After that, it's $1.99 a month for the 100 gb's, or $9.99 a month for 1 tb. Reliable and well worth the price.
 

afsnyder

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Still disappointed in this department for Apple. Maybe even disappointed in the name those choose to use... Drive... really?

Anyways, iCloud Drive is still not (IMO) ready for real use. For my company, we use Google Apps (Mail, Docs, etc) all synchronized perfectly with live editing, etc. but iCloud Drive really is only good for personal use... no business options? Unless I'm missing something here?

Still a far ways away.
Well duh, its not finished.
 

mmomega

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So much wrong with this post.

I laugh at the idea of a company using Google Apps or storage for ANYTHING. Not trying to insult your "business", but good grief. Could you pick something worse?

iCloud Drive looks like it will be exactly what people need. I'm not sure how its supposed to work on iOS yet, need to read a little more into that. I'm guessing 3rd party Apps need to integrate it. Good luck with that, since very few have taken advantage of everything iCloud has offered in the last 2 years.

One thing for certain is that I will be ditching Dropbox (finally) once this is fully available with new pricing tiers.
Completely agree.

When I receive a business card and it has georgeRK69@gmail.com it is harder for me to take it as serious than if the card would have george@hisbusinessname.com.

When purchasing a website name all you need to do is setup your own email with your domain name.

Also VPN'ing into my office storage server gives me 20TB+ of storage space that I can share with anyone. No monthly fee.
I can do this from my iPhone or iPad and access pretty much any file I have stored.

Even this being said, I still have some mixed Google/Apple online solutions but I still wouldn't rely on Apple or Google to keep ANY of my business data backed up or think that either of their online solutions are safe.
They are a convenience.
 

irnchriz

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I think you're being a little bias towards google. Google apps is a great product. Tons a companies use it now and it's reliable and easy. It's light years ahead of apples mail and documents. And this coming from an apple fan boy.
Lots of SMB's may use it but using a service like box.com is preferable to using anything from google. Not one of our clients would touch google with a barge pole. These range from solicitors and design houses to software development studios. Some have started to migrate to office 365 but the remainder prefer to keep everything in-house for obvious cost and security benefits.

Getting lots of storage for free is not equal to a good secure service where you have 100% control over the data.
 

ZombiePete

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When I receive a business card and it has georgeRK69@gmail.com it is harder for me to take it as serious than if the card would have george@hisbusinessname.com.
If they actually had a Google Apps account, they could very well be using a custom domain for their email and what-have-you. As a business service Apps doesn't use the Gmail domain, at least not unless you choose for it to (if they even give you that option).

Judging a business card by the domain in the email address seems kind of petty to me though, frankly. As someone who has to make decisions about who to hire for projects and such, I've never used that as a criterion for hiring someone.

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I laugh at the idea of a company using Google Apps or storage for ANYTHING. Not trying to insult your "business", but good grief. Could you pick something worse?
Why exactly? Google Apps is a paid service that gives small to medium sized businesses access to enterprise tools at prices they can realistically afford. For email, collaboration, etc. it's a perfectly acceptable solution for IT services, as far as I can tell.
 

Hookemfins

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Completely agree.

When I receive a business card and it has georgeRK69@gmail.com it is harder for me to take it as serious than if the card would have george@hisbusinessname.com.
If you are presented with a business that has george@hisbusinessname.com, how can you be sure they still aren't using gmail? The company I work for uses gmail with the our own domain name. 3 of my 4 gmail accounts do not have the gmail domain.

You would be in shock at how many companies use gmail with their own domain name.
 

mmomega

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If you are presented with a business that has george@hisbusinessname.com, how can you be sure they still aren't using gmail? The company I work for uses gmail with the our own domain name. 3 of my 4 gmail accounts do not have the gmail domain.

You would be in shock at how many companies use gmail with their own domain name.
I'm not worried if the person is using gmail, I am saying that on a business card and my opinion only, if I see TCook@apple.com it looks more professional on paper and I can remember that that person is connected to the company.

If someone says Hi I am Fred and I own Austin Landscaping but his email is fred@gmail.com I am less likely to remember the company he is with.

I am just saying I am less likely to remember, because I don't associate the two. Similar to how if you meet a new person and you speak to them and say their name to them at least 3 separate times during the conversation you are more likely to remember that person later.
 

Hookemfins

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I'm not worried if the person is using gmail, I am saying that on a business card and my opinion only, if I see TCook@apple.com it looks more professional on paper and I can remember that that person is connected to the company.
Ok, I understand. I can say I disagree but I have a bias if they have an AOL email account. :)
 

pmz

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I think you're being a little bias towards google. Google apps is a great product. Tons a companies use it now and it's reliable and easy. It's light years ahead of apples mail and documents. And this coming from an apple fan boy.
Google apps are not "great" nor "reliable". Not for business. I think you're confusing them with something else.

I'm not saying Apple has the answer either. Not for business.

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Completely agree.

When I receive a business card and it has georgeRK69@gmail.com it is harder for me to take it as serious than if the card would have george@hisbusinessname.com.

When purchasing a website name all you need to do is setup your own email with your domain name.

Also VPN'ing into my office storage server gives me 20TB+ of storage space that I can share with anyone. No monthly fee.
I can do this from my iPhone or iPad and access pretty much any file I have stored.

Even this being said, I still have some mixed Google/Apple online solutions but I still wouldn't rely on Apple or Google to keep ANY of my business data backed up or think that either of their online solutions are safe.
They are a convenience.
Correct.
 

Screenslayr

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I'm not worried if the person is using gmail, I am saying that on a business card and my opinion only, if I see
If someone says Hi I am Fred and I own Austin Landscaping but his email is [email]fred@gmail.com
I am less likely to remember the company he is with.
I'm talking about Google Apps - As in the paid business service. You can use your own domain, not @gmail.com.

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Google apps are not "great" nor "reliable". Not for business. I think you're confusing them with something else.
Actually Google Apps are great and ARE reliable. I bet you haven't even seriously used them. They are a great option for businesses. Stop being bias man... I love Apple products and services more than the next person, but I know they aren't the best in certain areas. This is one of their areas. One can argue that Google Docs has single handily changed online documenting. I bet Office 365 would not exist without the competition of Google Docs. Both MS and Google are light years ahead of Apple in this area. It's a sad truth - I wish Apple was better in this department.

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Any particular reason for this opinion or are you just talking trash?
No reason, just being bias. It sucks... I wish Apple was better in this department, cause my company we all use Macs. And we use Google Apps to work with each other. If Apple had something on the level of Google, I would be more than happy to use it. TRUST ME.
 

philipk

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Actually Google Apps are great and ARE reliable....
They very well may be. However, why would you do business with a company (Google) that admits to scanning your emails to target advertising!!!!

Most business do not trust Google's privacy policies with cause.

Enough said.

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So much wrong with this post.

I laugh at the idea of a company using Google Apps or storage for ANYTHING. Not trying to insult your "business", but good grief. Could you pick something worse?

iCloud Drive looks like it will be exactly what people need. I'm not sure how its supposed to work on iOS yet, need to read a little more into that. I'm guessing 3rd party Apps need to integrate it. Good luck with that, since very few have taken advantage of everything iCloud has offered in the last 2 years.

One thing for certain is that I will be ditching Dropbox (finally) once this is fully available with new pricing tiers.
Agreed!

I hope I can ditch Dropbox. Then I would have OneDrive for Office 365 Documents and iCloud for everything else including photos!
 

Screenslayr

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They very well may be. However, why would you do business with a company (Google) that admits to scanning your emails to target advertising!!!!

Most business do not trust Google's privacy policies with cause.

Enough said.


Paid google aps for business does not include ads.
 

philipk

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Paid google aps for business does not include ads.
READ the privacy policy.

Even though those apps do not contain ads, they STILL scan your email to target you for ads in their other services that have ads.

That includes the scanning the e-mail you use for business!

No wonder Google is confusing people who refuse to read.
 

Screenslayr

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READ the privacy policy.

Even though those apps do not contain ads, they STILL scan your email to target you for ads in their other services that have ads.

That includes the scanning the e-mail you use for business!

No wonder Google is confusing people who refuse to read.
Honestly, if you care that much, then you need to get a life. It's 2014 - no matter what you do on the Internet is targeted. Facebook, Google, even Apple target to sell products. You can't avoid this unless you wanna live as an Amish and use zero electronics connected to the Internet. Get off your high horse and Apple's teat. Every company does this type of stuff to a certain degree whether you believe it or not. Let's be real.
 
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philipk

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Honestly, if you care that much, then you need to get a life. It's 2014 - no matter what you do on the Internet is targeted. Facebook, Google, even Apple target to sell products. You can't avoid this unless you wanna live as an Amish and use zero electronics connected to the Internet. Get off your high horse and Apple's teat. Every company does this type of stuff to a certain degree whether you believe it or not. Let's be real.
Apple does not scan email to target ads. End of discussion.
 
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