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I’m in the process of trying to remove as many Google services as I can, and so far it’s going ok. I’m now at the point of looking at email providers to replace gmail. One of the options it to switch to iCloud email, but I don’t have any experience with it. So, can any existing users share their experiences of using iCloud as their main email service? Is it reliable? How is the spam handling? Any issues? I would be using it via the Mail app in iPadOS and iOS, as well as on my Mac and a windows pc, probably via the web interface (which hasn’t impressed me from what I’ve seen so far).

Thanks.
 
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I’m in the process of trying to remove as many Google services as I can, and so far it’s going ok. I’m now at the point of looking at email providers to replace gmail. One of the options it to switch to iCloud email, but I don’t have any experience with it. So, can any existing users share their experiences of using iCloud as their main email service? Is it reliable? How is the spam handling? Any issues? I would be using it via the Mail app in iPadOS and iOS, as well as on my Mac and a windows pc, probably via the web interface (which hasn’t impressed me from what I’ve seen so far).

Thanks.
I feel it is hit or miss. I have been using for years and have had some issues. I don’t trust it. Have sent emails that never made its destination and have had my sent emails sent to spam. I have also been using fastmail.com for years and works awesome with Apple products and their web interface is phenomenal. I wish I could depend on iCloud but can’t at this point.
 
I’ve been happy with it. Some people complain about aggressive spam filtering but I haven’t seen it. You can access with other mail clients on Windows.
 
yep, it’s fine. spam filtering has been good for me. I’m only a basic user, but it does fine for sending/receiving/sticking things in folders/syncing between devices. Not sure what else is needed really!
 
I'd advise you to get your own domain name and have the email hosted somewhere reliable with the features you want. If you don't like it, you can change the hosting service. With a new free email address you're tied down again…to the service and whatever functional and privacy changes they make in the future.
I agree, that would be an ideal solution, if only I could come up with a good domain name that isn't taken... 🤣.
 
... an ideal solution, if only I could come up with a good domain name that isn't taken.
do a propter domain name:
this is a high tech low stress method:
a method not prone to error so should work 1st time:
protonMail (off shore company) has an excellent help page on setting up the MX records at your domain name provider. Pick one of protonMail's providers they talk about in their help page(s), pick goDaddy.
-At goDaddy buy a domain name for a year or two for your email effort. Pick something generic like "mymail.com" after all this domain name will only operate your email. You can play all day at goDaddy and find the very best domain name. goDaddy charges like $2.00/1st year for some names. Only goDaddy option you need to get is a private name listing ~$10 USD.
-goDaddy has good tech support during business hours and use them to navigate to their domain records control page. The goDaddy web site is clunky, i think my grandmother designed it back in the booming 90's.
-create a free protonMail account.
-upgrade the free account one level up, protonMail+. Note; there is a good offer for discounted protonMail+ and portonVPN and protonCloud. Tho a protonVPN rumor has it they limit p2p peers to less than 6. The protonCloud dosnt do sync.
-Use caution; the porton billing department is fragile.
-Proton is private; minium all they want to have is any id, password, and bitCoin payment. That is why you might consider protonVPN too. Proton may be private, maybe not secure.
-review; you got a goDaddy private domain name and upgrade to a protonMail+ account.
than
look up the protonMail help page for doDaddy MX records. Clip board from proton to goDaddy the various records text commands. So easy. the protonMail+ acc allows you to do the bill@mymail.com else you can get a protonMail++ and do anyName@mymail.com and it all funnels into your protonMail.

setup a proper email clients (iOS & macOS):
SETUP iOS:
-the protonMail iOS app is on the mighty iStore free. It has NOT been updated so the jury is out how much data they dredge from your emails and how it is traced to you. Apple now gives you a data privacy for recently updated iOS apps.
-hint the iOS proton app, you must remain "logged in" for the notifications and finger print/ face reg. to work.
-the iOS app can reference your domain name bill@mymail.com if you want it primary.
-you can make protonMail iOS your designated defalult iPhone email client, i did not. I did move the native iPhone email client icon out from the bottom 4 priority application icons and dragged the protoMail icon into its space.
SETUP macOS:
-protonMail has a "Bridge" app you have to dwn load install other wise you can only use the proton web portal.
-To setup ANY macOS email for protonMail; Once the Bridge is operating use the Bride settings; port, email adr, security setting... and plug them into CanaryMail client to create a protonMail account in Canary Mail.
-I like Canary macOS as they seem more private than average, may be not.
-Canary is free for ~22days and otherwise low cost. One license may cover all your macOS needs.
-i use Catalina.


general:
-apple limits you to only one email user name per apple account.
-apple could read your email content just like google.
-dont ding your personal credit card, buy bitCoin with USD for all off shore purchases these days
-separate domain name & email provides gives you sone options to change out the email and no one will know
-the protonMail++ account does a few things more. Notable; it gives you the ability to have any email name left of the @ symbol. So business@mymail.com is the same as personal@mymail.com, all funnels to the same email client. Just more porfessional.
-protonMail is generous and I do not have an issue to pay for their services.
-get multiple proton free protonMail account(s) for burner emails.
-also myBurner@protonMail.com same as myBurner@pm.com
-do not delete your previous gmail account. Let it sit and hold reserve your email name you have been using for decades. While you move everyone to the new email setup.


i do not represent any of these peeps
and
do your own research = no guarantee this works.
 
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If I set up a custom domain and add it to a ProtonMail account, can I still use the ProtonMail address as well as the custom domain one? Sorry if that’s a daft question...
 
yes you can use both. In the iOS app setting for the primary name which ever. Also @proton.com = @pm.com
i got one of protonMail free emaiol account to setup an expressVPN. twice as fast as my old vpn providor
get the proton++ account if you want more email name options and or anyname functioality
goDaddy; you can play all day to find the total domain name(s) fulfillment but pick a plane jane name for the main email MX holder acc so no one suspects. Else you wind up in the Spam.
proton++ allows multiple names and anyname.
i keep the protonMail name secret myslef
 
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seems there was another recent thread at macrumors where de-google & email was discussed
searh for protonColoud or posts under my macrumor user id

there was a member using fastmail. Seemed comparable but protomail had that very functional help page on MX records for goDaddy.
 
That could have been my thread, I was after general info on getting rid of google, but put this one here as originally it was about iCloud specifically.
 
I have one domain email hosted at Google (I don't care and it's free grandfathered), one hosted at Office 365 (for the one user that runs Outlook on a Windows machine…otherwise I wouldn't) and one simply hosted at its website hosting service.

The one hosted by the website host ends up costing me the yearly $9 domain fee plus the hosting fee, which is under $12 per year. Storage is limited so I move emails to one of the other accounts. Google and Office 365 email hosting costs about the same, I think…about $50/yr per account.

Push email is great on the iPhone with Office 365 Exchange but you can't freely move emails around between IMAP and Exchange…so mine is set up as IMAP and I don't even get that benefit.
 
do a propter domain name:
this is a high tech low stress method:
a method not prone to error so should work 1st time:
protonMail (off shore company) has an excellent help page on setting up the MX records at your domain name provider. Pick one of protonMail's providers they talk about in their help page(s), pick goDaddy.
-At goDaddy buy a domain name for a year or two for your email effort. Pick something generic like "mymail.com" after all this domain name will only operate your email. You can play all day at goDaddy and find the very best domain name. goDaddy charges like $2.00/1st year for some names. Only goDaddy option you need to get is a private name listing ~$10 USD.
-goDaddy has good tech support during business hours and use them to navigate to their domain records control page. The goDaddy web site is clunky, i think my grandmother designed it back in the booming 90's.
-create a free protonMail account.
-upgrade the free account one level up, protonMail+. Note; there is a good offer for discounted protonMail+ and portonVPN and protonCloud. Tho a protonVPN rumor has it they limit p2p peers to less than 6. The protonCloud dosnt do sync.
-Use caution; the porton billing department is fragile.
-Proton is private; minium all they want to have is any id, password, and bitCoin payment. That is why you might consider protonVPN too. Proton may be private, maybe not secure.
-review; you got a goDaddy private domain name and upgrade to a protonMail+ account.
than
look up the protonMail help page for doDaddy MX records. Clip board from proton to goDaddy the various records text commands. So easy. the protonMail+ acc allows you to do the bill@mymail.com else you can get a protonMail++ and do anyName@mymail.com and it all funnels into your protonMail.

setup a proper email clients (iOS & macOS):
SETUP iOS:
-the protonMail iOS app is on the mighty iStore free. It has NOT been updated so the jury is out how much data they dredge from your emails and how it is traced to you. Apple now gives you a data privacy for recently updated iOS apps.
-hint the iOS proton app, you must remain "logged in" for the notifications and finger print/ face reg. to work.
-the iOS app can reference your domain name bill@mymail.com if you want it primary.
-you can make protonMail iOS your designated defalult iPhone email client, i did not. I did move the native iPhone email client icon out from the bottom 4 priority application icons and dragged the protoMail icon into its space.
SETUP macOS:
-protonMail has a "Bridge" app you have to dwn load install other wise you can only use the proton web portal.
-To setup ANY macOS email for protonMail; Once the Bridge is operating use the Bride settings; port, email adr, security setting... and plug them into CanaryMail client to create a protonMail account in Canary Mail.
-I like Canary macOS as they seem more private than average, may be not.
-Canary is free for ~22days and otherwise low cost. One license may cover all your macOS needs.
-i use Catalina.


general:
-apple limits you to only one email user name per apple account.
-apple could read your email content just like google.
-dont ding your personal credit card, buy bitCoin with USD for all off shore purchases these days
-separate domain name & email provides gives you sone options to change out the email and no one will know
-the protonMail++ account does a few things more. Notable; it gives you the ability to have any email name left of the @ symbol. So business@mymail.com is the same as personal@mymail.com, all funnels to the same email client. Just more porfessional.
-protonMail is generous and I do not have an issue to pay for their services.
-get multiple proton free protonMail account(s) for burner emails.
-also myBurner@protonMail.com same as myBurner@pm.com
-do not delete your previous gmail account. Let it sit and hold reserve your email name you have been using for decades. While you move everyone to the new email setup.


i do not represent any of these peeps
and
do your own research = no guarantee this works.
sorry to dredge this up if it's been somehow updated.... i'm looking to do something similar - get away from google. so if i understand all this then order of operations with some questions embedded:
1. set up my domain on godaddy, let's say: family-email.com adding domain protection, 10$
2. go to proton mail, set up email account: family-email@protronmail.com free
3. upgrade the above to plus @ $4/mo.
a) so now i'm effectively paying for a single email account every year?
b) what if i need/want more emails for the family? is more advantageous to register ea family member with wife@family-email.com, son..., dog..., or set up a professional-protonmail.com?
1. why?
2. assume I don't want to see son@family-email.com emails unless i go into the "back-end" in other godaddy or potonmail....
3. other?
4. this step - I've migrated MX records before from an old godaddy-original domain to a squarespace/G-Suite ; is that all I'm doing here?
"-review; you got a goDaddy private domain name and upgrade to a protonMail+ account than look up the protonMail help page for doDaddy MX records. Clip board from proton to goDaddy the various records text commands. So easy. the protonMail+ acc allows you to do the bill@mymail.com else you can get a protonMail++ and do anyName@mymail.com and it all funnels into your protonMail."
5. d/l the iOS app for my iPhone. set up?
a) d/l Canary $20? set up?
b) d/l setapp $120/yr?
6. d/l bridge. set up on macOS.
a) d/l Canary $20? set up?
b) d/l setapp $120/yr?
7. Why not just use the apple mail interface?
8. keep gmail as an archive.

once again, thanks for the above OP and apologies for my own density. for me, I'm just trying to cut the google cord. I have my own business where I could expense most of these charges so that does provide some appeal - just not sure if I need all these levels of security as a pretty casual user....
 
If you use iCloud let's say to store photos, contacts, notes, etc. then it is very convenient to use iCloud email as the main one. If you use a paid subscription to iCloud+ then you can also use a custom domain, you can send emails from a temporary address keeping your main hidden.
Each service has its pros and cons. But I do not understand why it is necessary for a person who uses the iCloud to create an account and pay for some proton mail servers who seem to be located in Switzerland and there is no guarantee that this service will not stop working tomorrow.
 
I have been using iCloud email for several years and no problems, for all the time I have never seen spam or even advertising. It just works from any apple device, no additional settings are needed.
 
For the last few months I've been receiving an avalanche of spam in my iCloud account - nearly always with a "Costco" sender and a "crystalgolfresort.com" reply-to.

I've forwarded dozens of these to abuse@icloud.com but it hasn't made any difference.
 
I recently fully migrated from Gmail to iCloud Mail (for consolidation purposes more than anything else), and I am loving the relevant iCloud+ perks like the custom domain name. Also, I like not having to keep the Gmail app installed on my iPhone just for the sake of push notifications.
I have to say, however, that if you think Mail.app is mediocre, wait until you see the webmail on icloud.com: it's utter and complete hot steaming garbage. It's the idea of a webmail of a 6 year old who thinks about it while watching TV or something. It's astonishingly bad. It feels like Yahoo mail 18 years ago.
If you care about having a proper webmail, stay with Gmail.
 
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