iCloud Photo Library Bug

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by JWreck, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. JWreck macrumors member

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    I've recently discovered a potential bug in iCloud Photo Library - and I don't think it's a small one.

    Long story short, if you select the option "Disable and Delete" on a device using iCloud Photo Library, it will disable the service and begin a countdown from 30 days to permanently delete your photos - during that time you're able to re-enable iCloud Photo Library and stop the timer.

    What the bug seems to affect, however, is that if you re-enable it, it still counts down and deletes your stuff anyway. I disabled and deleted iCloud Photo Library around Jan 10, and enabled it again around Jan 12, however on Feb 10 is when I noticed my pictures were gone.

    I've opened a case with Apple Support who is working with their technical teams, but it's seriously frustrating because it seems like I'll have to wipe the iCloud Photo Library and upload my pictures AGAIN, after having done this last month already.
     
  2. cswifx Suspended

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    I disabled and re-enabled iCloud Photos Library a while back... Hopefully that doesn't happen. I actually deleted everything after re-enabling and re-uploaded everything again.
     
  3. JWreck thread starter macrumors member

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    Yep that's exactly what I did and now I'm in this situation. Make a good backup now....
     
  4. cswifx Suspended

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    Yeah I always select the 'Download and Keep Originals' option. I'm gonna wait a while more until the 30 days are up, hopefully the issue doesn't occur.
     
  5. high3r macrumors member

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    This happened to me as well. My photos in iCloud have changed to "Documents" and take up 66GB's. My case was forwarded to Engineering because support couldn't wipe that 66GB of docs.

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  6. JWreck thread starter macrumors member

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    It's hard to want to continue using Apple's extended iCloud platform when there are major issues like this.
     
  7. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    Use Google Photos in addition to iCloud Photo Library, just in case.
     
  8. high3r, Feb 15, 2017
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    high3r macrumors member

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    Have your Photos also "converted" into Docs which you cannot delete therefore take up space on your iCloud storage?

    Anyway, it's been two days now and I haven't heard from support or engineering. Don't know why is it complicated to delete that ghost stuff.
     
  9. cswifx Suspended

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    Probably some internal paperwork they need to do to access your data... Or you're just lower in the queue.
     
  10. Rhonindk macrumors 68020

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    After a few incidents, I use Google Photos and have stopped using iCloud Photos.
    Maybe someday I'll try it again if they fix it.
     
  11. W M R macrumors newbie

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    After spending months of work and uploading a library of 28000 photos to iCloud, my whole iCloud Photo Library suddenly disappeared! I didn't change any settings or moved anything at all! The iCloud space still seems to be used though and there seam to be 150 GB of documents on iCloud Drive, that didn't exist before my Photo Library disappeared...
     
  12. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, just turn it off. Apple can't do big databases. Not worth it.
     
  13. W M R macrumors newbie

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    Apple simply deleted my whole library! I won't use iCloud anymore, since the risk of data loss is too high...
     
  14. high3r macrumors member

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    I have called them yesterday and this crap is still not resolved. I think Macrumors should write about it on frontpage since it's a fu..ing bug in iCloud. Engineering came up with some terminal commands that do abosolutely nothing and my 66GB is still not released after 8 fu..ing days. Now my case is again forwarded to Engineering and I have scheduled a call back for Wednesday in the morning. I received mail about it and 10 seconds later I got another email that I have cancelled the call-back which I haven't. What the flying fu.. is going on Apple??
     
  15. W M R macrumors newbie

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    I needed my problem to be resolved and wanted to have access to my iCloud Photo Library again. Apple support promised to call back with a possible solution, instead of that they simply deleted everything...
     
  16. high3r macrumors member

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    This is very embarassing to say the least. Macrumors should write about it on the frontpage but somehow my email
    to the editors are considered spam. :(
     
  17. high3r macrumors member

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    Just an update. I called Apple twice this week and this sh** is still unresolved. Now it's been 13 days since my iCloud Photo Library was wiped and converted to Docs due to Apple's bug and I still cannot use the whole 200GB of iCloud Storage that I subscribe for. Fu**ing hilarious. Shame on you Apple.
     
  18. cswifx Suspended

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    You may want to ask them to directly transfer you to engineering. The people there may be able to help you.
     
  19. W M R macrumors newbie

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    I talked to a senior advisor straight away and got my 200GB of iCloud storage back pretty soon. You should insist! They couldn't do anything more though and I'm very annoyed about the unreliability of iCould!
     
  20. Peter K. macrumors 6502a

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    This is exactly what I do and I'm glad I chose to do so. These stories are unsettling.
     
  21. W M R macrumors newbie

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    I wouldn't like to upload 150GB twice though...
     
  22. high3r macrumors member

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    At last my stuck 66GB of Documents had been deleted by Apple eventhough I didn't receive any email from them saying so. If I don't check it myself then I'd probably never know. Great customer service. NOT!

    Anyway I turned on iCloud Photo Library on my macbook which has the full library. It started to upload my library and considering my upload speed (4mbit/s) it went too fast. Checking Activity Monitor -» Network I saw that there was only 18GB data sent while my complete library in iCloud is 58GB. This means that 30GB must have come from some kind of cache or something as I have only uploaded 18GB.

    What does it mean? Do Apple keep customer data even after deletion?
     
  23. zorinlynx macrumors 601

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    There's a good chance your data was still there somewhere, with the blocks marked for re-use.

    Apple most likely uses deduplication in their iCloud platform. This saves bandwidth by sending a checksum of the file you're going to upload first; the server then determines if it has a copy already and if it does, the file is not uploaded and the copy they have already is used.

    Either way, I suggest having your Mac download a complete copy of your iCloud Photo Library, then checking for corruption against your original data.

     
  24. high3r macrumors member

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    Thanks a lot for the explanation. How I'm supposed to do that corruption check you mention?
     
  25. W M R macrumors newbie

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    All my data was obviously totally deleted, because the second time uploading my photo library took as long as the first time. I do hope, Apple won't delete my library a second time without warning!...
     

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