iCloud Photo Library

Sharkey311

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Okay, I really hope this is a beta 1 issue and will be resolved in the public release. But iCloud Photo Library is really driving me mad.

I finally decided to duplicate/create the "From My Computer" albums/folders directly on my iPhone and once I was done, I had 2 of each of my folders. One was the original My Computer albums and the albums I created on my iPhone.

So as to not have 2 of each, I decided to see what would happen when I plugged my phone into iTunes and get rid of the My Computer albums (I figured you would just select the "Photos" tab in iTunes and uncheck it and sync it.

Well, the Photos tab disappeared in iTunes. So I unplugged my phone, turned off iCloud Photo Library and plugged it back into iTunes...Photos tab was back.

To test this further, I unchecked an album that I had synced. It removed the "My Computer" album from my iPhone...but left the replicated album on my iPhone empty...

My question is, how the crap do I add these albums to my phone and get rid of the My Computer ones?

They've really made this process a headache.
 

afsnyder

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Okay, I really hope this is a beta 1 issue and will be resolved in the public release. But iCloud Photo Library is really driving me mad.

I finally decided to duplicate/create the "From My Computer" albums/folders directly on my iPhone and once I was done, I had 2 of each of my folders. One was the original My Computer albums and the albums I created on my iPhone.

So as to not have 2 of each, I decided to see what would happen when I plugged my phone into iTunes and get rid of the My Computer albums (I figured you would just select the "Photos" tab in iTunes and uncheck it and sync it.

Well, the Photos tab disappeared in iTunes. So I unplugged my phone, turned off iCloud Photo Library and plugged it back into iTunes...Photos tab was back.

To test this further, I unchecked an album that I had synced. It removed the "My Computer" album from my iPhone...but left the replicated album on my iPhone empty...

My question is, how the crap do I add these albums to my phone and get rid of the My Computer ones?

They've really made this process a headache.
It's specifically marked as developer use only, meaning some of the user facing features may not work as intended and might not even been finished. They probably haven't fixed all the album glitches that you are experiences. I think the best you can do right now is report your situation to Apple using the bug reporter app.

It also might be worth noting that the next version of iTunes w/ iOs 8 compatibility is not available just yet. That might be your problem.
 

Sharkey311

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It's specifically marked as developer use only, meaning some of the user facing features may not work as intended and might not even been finished. They probably haven't fixed all the album glitches that you are experiences. I think the best you can do right now is report your situation to Apple using the bug reporter app.

It also might be worth noting that the next version of iTunes w/ iOs 8 compatibility is not available just yet. That might be your problem.
I'm explicitly aware that it's for developers (me)

I vaguely recall this being an issue in the public release of ios 7 as well. I create an album on the phone, transfer/add pictures from an existing "my computer" album, delete the my computer album and magically the photos in the album created on the iPhone disappear but leaves the album.
 

richwoodrocket

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That is so stupid how they did it. I want my camera roll back.:(
And no recently deleted. If I'm deleting it, there's a reason I'm deleting it.
 

jmantn

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That is so stupid how they did it. I want my camera roll back.:(
And no recently deleted. If I'm deleting it, there's a reason I'm deleting it.
I like the recently deleted folder. Maybe they'll have an option for you to disable it but I prefer it
 

Sharkey311

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Yeah, seems like no one has the answer to this. Also, the albums synced to my iPad, but they're all empty.
 

Jason.childs

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Syncing Hanging

I can't get sync to work between iPhone 5s and iPad mini, both on beta 2....have tried everything!
 

Sharkey311

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Beta 2 still doesn't resolve anything with my particular predicament. Anyone else have any suggestions?
 

carriebear30

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icloud photo library

My issue is that with all the generations of iPhones and the fact I get the 16gb and need room to update...I download all my photos to my windows computer. this allows me to un-sync the photos when I need room to upgrade and then re-sync once the upgrade is done. An apple tech told me that a few years ago and I have just kept doing it. Anyway in order to use the iCloud photo library it now deletes all the photo synced thru iTunes.

Any ideas how to add these photos from my computer directly to the icloud photo library??

Running Beta 5 on a 5s
 

afsnyder

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My issue is that with all the generations of iPhones and the fact I get the 16gb and need room to update...I download all my photos to my windows computer. this allows me to un-sync the photos when I need room to upgrade and then re-sync once the upgrade is done. An apple tech told me that a few years ago and I have just kept doing it. Anyway in order to use the iCloud photo library it now deletes all the photo synced thru iTunes.

Any ideas how to add these photos from my computer directly to the icloud photo library??

Running Beta 5 on a 5s
There is no way without going through the photos app. You can upload the photos to dropbox and save the photos to your device and it'll upload that way.
 

cheekyjeremy

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There is no way without going through the photos app. You can upload the photos to dropbox and save the photos to your device and it'll upload that way.
Would it be possible for you to give a little more information on this. I too have the same problem. My Photos are on my mac, and also on my iPhone. If I enable the cloud feature for the photos, it wants to delete them on the ios device. I too, want to get them into the cloud to then download them to the iOS device.

If I go your route of uploading all my photos from my mac to dropbox, how do I get them from dropbox in the cloud into photo app on iOS ?
 

afsnyder

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Would it be possible for you to give a little more information on this. I too have the same problem. My Photos are on my mac, and also on my iPhone. If I enable the cloud feature for the photos, it wants to delete them on the ios device. I too, want to get them into the cloud to then download them to the iOS device.

If I go your route of uploading all my photos from my mac to dropbox, how do I get them from dropbox in the cloud into photo app on iOS ?
Download dropbox for iOS and save each photo individually (not sure if dropbox can save in bulk). iOS should upload it the photos right away.

But keep in mind iCloud Drive is still in development and could wipe all your photos from iCloud photo library before iOS 8 drops to the public.
 

WilkoRam

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Sorry this may be a dumb question but am I missing something here?

The latest beta version of IOS 8 has the iCloud Photo Library option to 'Optimise iPhone Storage'. My understanding of this is that my original pictures get stored in iCloud and versions which are the right format to see perfectly on my iPhone are made and remain.

So how do I then access them on my Mac (running Yosemite)? I have iPhoto 9.5.1 and I go into shared and it's the old photo stream. Where are the originals?

I appreciate this is beta and therefore I'm not concerned, they're not important pictures as I backed them up, I just want to see if I'm missing the point or a way of now getting those iCloud pics onto my mac.

Oh if I connect the phone to the mac and try and transfer my photos in iPhoto, some of the pictures do not show up, just a picture icon instead (maybe they're the ones optimised for the iPhone?) and the transfer fails when it reaches them.

Any ideas or am I talking nonsense?
 

cheekyjeremy

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Download dropbox for iOS and save each photo individually (not sure if dropbox can save in bulk). iOS should upload it the photos right away.

But keep in mind iCloud Drive is still in development and could wipe all your photos from iCloud photo library before iOS 8 drops to the public.
Yikes, uploading 5000+ photos one at a time would be exhausting to say the least. I am not worried about a iCloud wipe as I have all the full versions in iPhoto on the mac. I am sure there has to be an easier way.
 

afsnyder

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Yikes, uploading 5000+ photos one at a time would be exhausting to say the least. I am not worried about a iCloud wipe as I have all the full versions in iPhoto on the mac. I am sure there has to be an easier way.
Apple is planning Photos for Mac in Early 2015 which will probably let your import them directly from iPhoto via Share menu.
 

BrettDS

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Yikes, uploading 5000+ photos one at a time would be exhausting to say the least. I am not worried about a iCloud wipe as I have all the full versions in iPhoto on the mac. I am sure there has to be an easier way.

This is what I did. Unfortunately it's not easy, but it is easier than uploading photos one at a time. There's a great app called photosync by touchbyte. As I recall it was a dollar or two, but it was well worth it. This app has a companion app that runs on the Mac or PC and you can start it on your iDevice and wirelessly transfer photos from your Mac or PC to the camera roll.

Now, the not easy part comes from the fact that it doesn't run under iOS 8 right now. What I wound up doing was taking an iPad with iOS 7 and used photosync to transfer all of my photos to it. Then I upgraded it to iOS 8 and enabled IPL to transfer all the photos to IPL. I had like 8000 photos to do and I was using a 16G iPad, so I had to do it in three batches DFUing the iPad back to iOS 7, loading the photos, then upgrading to iOS 8 each time. It was a pain, but it worked for me.

I'm sure photosync will be updated to support iOS 8 eventually and that should make it much easier.
 

Stuke00

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Sorry this may be a dumb question but am I missing something here?

The latest beta version of IOS 8 has the iCloud Photo Library option to 'Optimise iPhone Storage'. My understanding of this is that my original pictures get stored in iCloud and versions which are the right format to see perfectly on my iPhone are made and remain.

So how do I then access them on my Mac (running Yosemite)? I have iPhoto 9.5.1 and I go into shared and it's the old photo stream. Where are the originals?

I appreciate this is beta and therefore I'm not concerned, they're not important pictures as I backed them up, I just want to see if I'm missing the point or a way of now getting those iCloud pics onto my mac.

Oh if I connect the phone to the mac and try and transfer my photos in iPhoto, some of the pictures do not show up, just a picture icon instead (maybe they're the ones optimised for the iPhone?) and the transfer fails when it reaches them.

Any ideas or am I talking nonsense?

https://www.apple.com/osx/preview/apps/

"Photos in OS X is coming early next year."
 

ziggie216

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Yikes, uploading 5000+ photos one at a time would be exhausting to say the least. I am not worried about a iCloud wipe as I have all the full versions in iPhoto on the mac. I am sure there has to be an easier way.
You can always AirDrop the 5000+ photos to your iDevice
 

jabingla2810

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I see. So I'd I delete a photo on my iPhone will both the optimised version and the icloud version go or just the optimised one stored locally. The alert when you press delete suggests that all versions will be deleted.
Both will go.

The idea is to have 1 syncronized photo library accross all devices.
 

WilkoRam

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So effectively with the 'optimised' option chosen you can't delete a photo from your camera roll until the new photo app for Mac OS comes out. A photo taken on your phone gets uploaded to icloud and an 'optimised' version left on the phone. Should I ever want to see the original again, rather than a reduced iphone version, I better leave the pic alone until 2015?
 

imaginex20

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So effectively with the 'optimised' option chosen you can't delete a photo from your camera roll until the new photo app for Mac OS comes out. A photo taken on your phone gets uploaded to icloud and an 'optimised' version left on the phone. Should I ever want to see the original again, rather than a reduced iphone version, I better leave the pic alone until 2015?
if you delete the picture it will delete it from your phone and icloud photo library.
 
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