iCloud Photos + Multiple Apple IDs?

[H3LL5P4WN]

I've had an ongoing issue where iCloud Control Panel (under Windows Vista, 7, and 8.1) would not copy photos to my PC. I've tried this on multiple PCs and even a Macbook. So we're fairly certain it's an account issue. Apple's never been able to resolve the issue. This caused me to go to the green robot. I'm thinking I'd like to come back.

I've pondered creating a brand spanking new account, but don't want to lose my music, movies, or purchases.

This post here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204053 makes me think that I could sign into a freshly restored (new/new to me) iOS device and create a new iCloud login, then sign into iTunes with my old ID, making my syncing run via the new iCloud account and still giving me access to my purchases.

Has anyone had this sort of issue or tried this specific work around?

 

[manu chao]

I've pondered creating a brand spanking new account, but don't want to lose my music, movies, or purchases.

This post here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204053 makes me think that I could sign into a freshly restored (new/new to me) iOS device and create a new iCloud login, then sign into iTunes with my old ID, making my syncing run via the new iCloud account and still giving me access to my purchases.

Has anyone had this sort of issue or tried this specific work around?

Yes, this should work. But note that once you log into the iTunes & App Store with a given account on a given device that device is locked to that account for 90 days for the purpose of downloading past purchases. Thus once you have created that second account either make very sure that you don't log into that new account within the iTunes or App Store or don't wipe any of the purchases from the device. The latter could be done either by not resetting your iPhone but merely logging into the new account on it in the iCloud section (though resolving your problem might require resetting your phone) or by making sure all purchases are stored in your iTunes library.

In short:

1. (a) Don't log into the new account in the iTunes Store or App Store parts in iOS (general settings app and respective iTunes Store and App Store apps).
   (b) Don't log into the new account in iTunes.
   
2. Ensure that all purchases (apps, songs, movies, etc.) are stored in your iTunes library and don't delete them or reset the iTunes library.
3. Don't wipe you phone but merely try to log into the new account in regard to the iCloud section.

If you cannot maintain (3), you still have (1) and (2) that backup your purchases.

 

[H3LL5P4WN]

Yes, this should work. But note that once you log into the iTunes & App Store with a given account on a given device that device is locked to that account for 90 days for the purpose of downloading past purchases. Thus once you have created that second account either make very sure that you don't log into that new account within the iTunes or App Store or don't wipe any of the purchases from the device. The latter could be done either by not resetting your iPhone but merely logging into the new account on it in the iCloud section (though resolving your problem might require resetting your phone) or by making sure all purchases are stored in your iTunes library.

In short:

1. (a) Don't log into the new account in the iTunes Store or App Store parts in iOS (general settings app and respective iTunes Store and App Store apps).
   (b) Don't log into the new account in iTunes.
   
2. Ensure that all purchases (apps, songs, movies, etc.) are stored in your iTunes library and don't delete them or reset the iTunes library.
3. Don't wipe you phone but merely try to log into the new account in regard to the iCloud section.

If you cannot maintain (3), you still have (1) and (2) that backup your purchases.

Thank you for your response.

So just to make sure (because for some reason, this seems tricky), my process should be:

1. Power on iOS device, create a fresh Apple ID (or is it considered an iCloud account, at this point?), on-device.
2. Go to settings and sign into iTunes/App Store with my old Apple ID, to have access to my purchases.
3. Remained signed into iTunes on my PC with my old Apple ID.
4. Sign into iCloud Control Panel on my PC with my new Apple ID/iCloud Account.

Would it be possible to use my last iTunes device backup, or will I have to start fresh?

 

[manu chao]

1. Power on iOS device, create a fresh Apple ID (or is it considered an iCloud account, at this point?), on-device.

Before creating a new AppleID you have to sign out of your current one first (which probably was already obvious to you). And you can create this new AppleID on the phone, at iCloud.com and probably also in iCloud Control Panel on your PC (you can do it in the iCloud 'Control Panel' on Macs).

Would it be possible to use my last iTunes device backup, or will I have to start fresh?

No, you can use the last iTunes backup. The question is just whether your problem might be restored with the backup (no way of knowing until you try it out). And you might not even have to restore your phone, maybe logging into iCloud with your new AppleID on your phone might be enough, if it isn't you would a restore from backup and if that doesn't solve it, you might have set up the phone fresh.

 

[H3LL5P4WN]

Before creating a new AppleID you have to sign out of your current one first (which probably was already obvious to you). And you can create this new AppleID on the phone, at iCloud.com and probably also in iCloud Control Panel on your PC (you can do it in the iCloud 'Control Panel' on Macs).

No, you can use the last iTunes backup. The question is just whether your problem might be restored with the backup (no way of knowing until you try it out). And you might not even have to restore your phone, maybe logging into iCloud with your new AppleID on your phone might be enough, if it isn't you would a restore from backup and if that doesn't solve it, you might have set up the phone fresh.

Thanks. Since I don't currently own any Apple hardware (other than my Airport Extreme and Express), this would be a a virgin setup anyway.