iCloud Photos People syncing isn't enabled on iOS 10 GM

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by selective, Sep 7, 2016.

  1. selective Suspended

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    I'm reading through the developer notes and it says iOS 10 GM people syncing isn't enabled yet... wtf
     
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    They even said in an interview right after WWDC that the people sync isn't coming till a later time. Because all the scanning and machine learning is done on device. And that syncing won't come until they figure out the best way to implement setting a "master" device. Not everyone owns the same device line up.
     
  3. ajiuo macrumors 65816

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    They should have just not even released this feature at all until they had it figured out... it's really useless if you have to do it on each device... I predicted that there are going to be a lot of pissed off people when they discover this... and then Apple probably scramble to fix it like they did with the Apple TV remote app thing.
     
  4. gwhizkids macrumors 68020

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    I don't think so. I think most people use one device as a camera. They'll live until Apple figures this out.
     
  5. selective thread starter Suspended

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    A lot of people are gonna get pissed when they figure out all their time they wasted organizing people is gonna be wasted.
     
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    You mean the majority of iOS users who don't even know or use half the features available to begin with? Not everyone that uses iOS are tech savvy, actually the majority are not or would even care that "People" doesn't sync across all devices from one single point (a lot only have 1 device and wouldn't even notice)

    Not every iOS user has multiple Apple devices. Holding back a feature that is tied to a much broader feature (the overall machine learning that is applied to more areas than just a new "People" folder in Photos.) would just be silly.
     
  7. ajiuo macrumors 65816

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    Less people own Apple TV4s then people who own multiple iOS and / or Mac devices... and only a fraction of those people use the iOS remote app... and somehow there was enough out rage to make apple react to that... The outrage over this is going to be worse than the missing remote app feature.... but it might be masked by the outrage over the missing headphone jack on the iPhone 7.
     
  8. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    Google will be always much better at this - it's the perk of doing it on servers. Apple can only do so much on device. Syncing local image recognition databases must be a nightmare.
     
  9. CaTOAGU macrumors 6502

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    Yeah googles way is currently more efficient. However apples is just about as accuracte and googles facial recognition isn't legally available in Europe presumably because of the privacy implications. It's always swings and roundabouts.
     
  10. TurboPGT! Suspended

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    It was never intended to, for privacy reasons.

    I'm not a fan of this decision, but make no mistake, it is intentional. If you thought otherwise, you were misinformed.
     
  11. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    Google's is way, way more accurate - especially facial recognition. Google Photos correctly identified and grouped almost all of my photos whereas Apple Photos created identified the same person as multiple faces and failed to group them correctly, even in smaller dataset.

    Facial recognition is enabled in Google Photos even in EU - it wasn't, but it is now, for a couple of months.
     
  12. CaTOAGU macrumors 6502

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    Oh, ok, I didn't know that. I stand corrected.

    I've found it to be quite close, most of the ones apple struggles with are taken from weird angles or have objects obstructing them. The smaller dataset might actually be a hinderence here too. Google still has an edge but for me at least, it's not massive. Its been a while since I've tried it though as personally, the trade offs lead me to using photos over using google, for the time being anyway.
     
  13. stooovie macrumors 6502a

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    It doesn't work properly (or nearly as good as google) even on Mac with full photo set. Not even close.

    Shame that Google Photos has zero integration with 3rd party apps. If you need to edit a google photo, you have to download that to Photo roll first.
     
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    I get all the same matches on my iPhone.
     
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    I don't understand why they are choosing to not use the existing name tags. Across iPhoto -> Aperture -> Photos (and Photos.app on iOS) it seems like they like starting over. The face information was stored in the exif, for those of us that had gone through and done the tagging, seems like they could have used that to speed up the (on device) face recognition.
     
  17. boston04and07 macrumors 65816

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    Personally, I'm fine with each of my devices doing its own processing work, as long as they all deliver the same results. What really bugs me is the inability of manual edits to sync across devices. So, if Photos accidentally tags someone incorrectly, I have to fix it separately on each device instead of once and having it sync. Plus, I assume I'll have to merge the existing Faces tags I have from pre-iOS 10 with the new People tags my devices find for the same people...on each device. This really will be quite a headache.
     
  18. diamond.g macrumors 603

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    From what I can tell. Currently iOS 10 ignored the face tags from prior versions. So you are "starting over" as far as iOS is concerned.
     
  19. boston04and07 macrumors 65816

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    Ok...they're not deleting them though, right? So I could in theory later merge old Faces tags with the new People tags my iPhone finds of the same person? (If that makes sense...)
     
  20. diamond.g macrumors 603

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    I hope they are not deleting it.
     
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    For the 10.3 beta does the release notes mention anything about syncing faces now?
     

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