iCloud Restore Revealed!

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by CosmoPilot, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. CosmoPilot macrumors 65816

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    If this has been posted, I apologize in advance. Mods, please place in appropriate location.

    My 4S arrived on Friday, but I sat on it for various reasons until Sunday night. I'm upgrading from an iPhone 4.

    I installed iOS 5 on my iP4, and made a backup copy to iCloud on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. I have about 9 GB worth of Apps, and approx. 9 GBs of music (not all purchased on iTunes). Additionally, I have many photos synced through iPhoto, and a DataVault app (which requires an encryption password). Finally, I use PocketInformant (a PIM app which I have linked to my iCal).

    Sunday night rolls around, an I decide to restore the new iP4S from this iCloud backup (it prompts for this option in the setup process). As soon as I do this, it asks for my Apple ID and Password. At this point, I feel I should mention, that I use 2 Apple IDs. 1 Apple ID is for purchased content (iTunes, Apps, Books, etc.), and the other Apple ID is used for all my other personal stuff, (i.e., iCloud...@me.com).

    During the setup step of restore, I give it the iCloud Apple ID, and it begins to restore all my settings, and data. This takes about 5 minutes (I have a fast Internet connection). As soon as that's done, I don't have any of my apps, only the stock apps...HOWEVER, it then asks me for my Apple ID for apps, etc. Therefore, I provide the other Apple ID and Password, then BAM!!! All my apps appear exactly where they were on my iP4. These are just place holders as they are still being downloaded from Apple's servers. However, it begins to download all my apps immediately.

    While these begin to download, I'm then prompted to provide my FaceTime Apple ID & Password (I use my iCloud account), then it asks for my iMessage Apple ID (again, I use my iCloud account).

    After all my apps install (about 1.5 hours), I click on my PIM app (Pocket Informant) and all my data is alive and well. Then I click on my Data Vault app (it asks for my encryption password...I enter it, and none of my data is there). SO, I go into the apps settings and click on restore (this is a separate function of the app, and will only work if you've backed up this particular app). To my surprise, all my saved backups of this app are listed. So, I click the latest and greatest, and all my data within the DataVault app are now alive and well.

    At the end of the day, I never connected to my computer at all and have everything I previously had on my iP4.....EXCEPT:

    1. Photos previously synced through iPhoto. My camera roll was intact, just not the albums & events I'd had from the past. This makes sense, as Apple can't provide enough space for all of our random photos.

    2. Non-purchased iTunes music. All my iTunes purchased music was restored, just not my older CD ripped music. All my playlists were restored as well, they just didn't have all the non-iTunes purchased music within them. I'm not certain, but I would imagine if you had a playlist without any iTunes music in it, you'd not regain this playlist on a restore.

    Final thoughts: I bet when iTunes Match goes live, ALL music will get restored...since it is on Apple's servers for you to re-download. As such, the only thing a person would need a computer for is to restore non-camera roll photos.

    I hope this helps someone understand how iCloud back up works!

    Of note, my iPhone 4 was a 32GB model. I had about 8 GBs free when I did my initial backup to iCloud. iCloud was reporting that I had 4.7GB of storage remaining. So only 300 MB was used to restore my entire phone...pretty sweet if you ask me! The only downside is the lengthy time to restore the phone. However, it does work as advertised!

    Cosmo
     
  2. Gregintosh macrumors 68000

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    I believe just settings and documents are really backed up. Apps and purchased music won't count against your quota since that's all part of the free iTunes / AppStore in the cloud features.
     
  3. donnaw macrumors 65816

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    Wow

    Thanks for the post! It's very interesting to know exactly what will happen.
     
  4. CosmoPilot thread starter macrumors 65816

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    And data. As I mentioned above, my DataVault app has several internal backups (all encrypted & not associated with Apple). Those backups were backed up as well and available for me to utilize from an iCloud restore. Having used only 300MB of iCloud to restore my entire phone is pretty sick!
     
  5. donnaw macrumors 65816

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    The DataVault is most interesting to me. I use eWallet and I wonder what will happen with it. I'm tempted to do a wipe and restore just to find out.
     
  6. Pink∆Floyd macrumors 68020

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    Excellent helpful post!

    Glad to see posts like these still pop up here :)
     
  7. tigress666 macrumors 68040

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    Where is this apps setting? I tried looking under settings but none of my apps including apple apps have restore in their settings (and not even near all my apps even have a listing under settings, including many apps I told it to backup).

    I'm just curious cause your wording leaves me to believe I could restore app data to one app in particular if I wish (I basically want to be able to delete a game but be able to get that game data back if I decide to re install it. Before iCloud went public but was still in beta mode I had heard you could do that...but I still haven't figured out how. I'm hoping you are saying what I think you are saying and I just am missing where I am supposed to go).
     
  8. CosmoPilot thread starter macrumors 65816

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    For this particular app, you have to physically open the app and then use the internal settings button to perform a backup. What I was surprised with is the fact this internal backup was available within a restored version of the app.

    In your case, I'm not sure how you delete an app entirely from the device without deleting its data as well. The only thing I can think of, is do an iCloud backup with the app still live. Then don't do anymore iCloud backups...this way, it keeps your last backup with associated data. I know this isn't the solution you are looking for. Hopefully, someone else can provide a more robust solution.
     
  9. c14nhl macrumors 6502

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    Great post! I also have 2 accounts and couldn't work out how that would work.

    Thanks OP.
     

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