iCloud Supports Re-Downloading Some Discontinued Apps

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    As noted by MacStories earlier this week, Apple's new re-downloading feature in iCloud allows users to obtain previously-purchased applications that are no longer available in the App Store. Engadget was even able to download Tris, an old tetris clone that was removed from the App Store nearly three years ago.

    While handy for grabbing apps that have become unavailable, the feature does appear to be limited to applications removed from sale by the developers and not applications removed by Apple for infringement, violations of App Store policies that had escaped the notice of reviewers, or other reasons.

    But even those apps that were voluntarily removed (such as Tris) for legal reasons may soon not be available for re-download. A number of iOS developers have reported another change in the iTunes Connect app management platform to record these legally-requested removals. Upon logging into iTunes Connect following Monday's keynote, developers were met with a screen asking whether any of their applications "may have a legal issue".


    Developers responding "yes" to the question are then presented with a list of their applications and their version histories and asked to identify which applications have legal issues associated with them. Apple appears to be using this information to identify applications that should not be made available for re-download through the listings of previously-purchased items.
    Going forward, similar questions are presented in the submission process for each application update, as outlined in the revised iTunes Connect Developer Guide (PDF), beginning on page 74.

    Article Link: iCloud Supports Re-Downloading Some Discontinued Apps
  2. DerfBWH macrumors regular

    Aug 11, 2008
    Just commenting to say that I have, and still play, Tris. I <3 it.
  3. AFPoster macrumors 65816

    Jul 14, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    I mentioned this in the DUI app section stating that the iCloud would do this, they (Apple) can also remove it from your iPhone and iPad OTA if they really don't want it out there anymore in iOS 5.
  4. pubwvj macrumors 68000


    Oct 1, 2004
    Mountains of Vermont
    This is twisted evil!

    This is very wrong. I don't at all like the idea of them being able to reach in and take away what I have purchased. This is very, very wrong.
  5. Errk! macrumors 6502

    Mar 6, 2006
    Interesting. When the iCloud features first became available and I looked in iTunes on my iPad, I noticed that I was able to download a song that was no longer available in the iTunes store that I purchased there (Bam Thwok by Pixies).
  6. squirrelist macrumors regular


    Jun 27, 2006
    Silver Spring MD
    Didn't they have a "kill switch" from be beginning of the app store? I don't think this has ever been activated. They said they have it there for removing malicious software.
  7. addicted44 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 6, 2005
    You do know that every mobile OS (including Google, which has used it FAR MORE than Apple has) has this kill switch, right?
  8. Aduntu macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2010
    They aren't. If you purchase it and back it up to your computer, you can continue to use it whether it's still in the app store or not. Apple has yet to take an app from those who have purchased it.
  9. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    Since I hope to finish and sell my own game someday, this is nice peace of mind: I don’t know if I’ll pay the $99/year forever, if sales eventually taper to zero and I don’t keep developing new games. If, someday, there are no more sales, and development must cease, it will be nice to know that my past users will still have access to re-download the final version.

    The kill switch is off-topic of course, but has Apple EVER used it? I hadn’t heard of any instances. I know Google has. (But then, they’re app market lacks important protections, so they are kind of stuck dealing with situations that way. I prefer Apple’s method, to stop the malware BEFORE I pay my money for it!)
  10. ericinboston macrumors 68000

    Jan 13, 2008
    This is why closed-system architectures like Apple's App Store are so hated.

    This is also why folks like me will never adopt Apple's stuff for things like movie, music, and software...because Apple can just reach in and disable/delete my stuff like Big Brother. If I own something (purchased or free) in physical form (book, dvd, painting), nobody can come into my home and take it away stating I had it for awhile and now it's time it disappears.
  11. nozebleed macrumors 6502

    Jul 30, 2008
    would VLC happen to be one of these apps with "legal issues"? I cant install it, even from itunes. "not authorized"
  12. nozebleed macrumors 6502

    Jul 30, 2008
    Now if you only felt this way about the government and your rights and freedoms
  13. LegendKillerUK macrumors 6502

    Apr 9, 2010
    If a developer has given up on updating a certain app what does it matter if Apple remove it? Chances are it won't work on newer versions of iOS anyway.
  14. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    As far as memory serves me, Apple has never done this and Google has done it once. (That we know of.)

    So, where, exactly, will you be running to? A windows phone? Yeah, I'm sure Microsoft doesn't have a plan like this is place.

    EDIT: And 'music' doesn't belong on your list, by the way. Apple can't do anything about that once you have it.
  15. deannnnn macrumors 68000


    Jun 4, 2007
    New York City & South Florida
    YES! Just got Tris back, too! This is awesome!
  16. jclardy macrumors 68030


    Oct 6, 2008
    ...this is bringing back old apps that have already been pulled, like Tris which was pulled because it is a Tetris clone.

    That comment would have made sense 2 years ago when they actually pulled the app off of the store. And most likely the developer themselves pulled it because they didn't want to get sued.
  17. rorschach macrumors 68020


    Jul 27, 2003
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    I think people are confused. Apple is not removing any apps on your phone or your iTunes library (aka the Kill Switch).

    This is simply about whether an app you bought that has been removed from the app store can still be still be Re-downloaded from the cloud. You can always sync it from your iTunes library if you have the IPA file.
  18. Dooger macrumors 6502

    May 4, 2009
  19. klamse25 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 25, 2009
    I was able to download the DOS emulator. (iDOS)
    Great surprise! :D
  20. hexonxonx macrumors 601

    Jul 4, 2007
    Denver Colorado
    For me, I can still download the complete Bob Dylan collection and Complete Depeche Mode but not the Complete U2.

    Complete Led Zeppelin is still available for me as well even though I got a refund for it from Apple.
  21. adwebinc macrumors member

    Dec 3, 2009
    Now give me a way to delete the apps that I don't want to see ever again in the cloud... especialy the ones my 11 year old downloads! :D
  22. bbeagle macrumors 68040


    Oct 19, 2010
    Buffalo, NY
    That has always been the case.

    When you leave the developer's program, you are no longer able to:
    (a) login to see your stats
    (b) update your app (bug fixes)

    But the app is still available on the app store, and you will still get money when people buy it. This has always been the case.

    However, where Apple gets you is that when a new version of iOS comes out, your app will no longer work with that new iOS version unless you update your app. (Older devices on the old iOS can still buy, download and use your app)
  23. squirrelist macrumors regular


    Jun 27, 2006
    Silver Spring MD
    And all the "Lite" apps I was testing out.
  24. Starflyer macrumors 6502a


    Jan 22, 2003
    Yes, Because Apple has a habit of doing this.
  25. The Phazer macrumors 68030

    Oct 31, 2007
    London, UK
    I'm able to get an app I know was pulled by Apple for IP infringement...


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