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You're being tracked by cell signal, or any wifi spots you connect to, your activity is tracked by IP address, you're tracked by your credit/debit card usage, there are cameras that take pictures of your tag, etc... I'm just saying, whatever people are afraid of by being tracked...you're being tracked one way or another.

I really don't care either...all they'll find about me is I live a boring life and love technology.

I don’t like this argument of “I’ve got nothing to hide but who cares”. Privacy should be important and we have a right to know how our data is being used, or what data is being collected. As Jobs said, that’s what privacy is — and if you’re aware of what they know and you’re fine with it, then that’s okay, providing you know what is being collected.

Apple take steps to ensure you know what data they collect and what this data would tell about you. Google take steps to continue mining your data even when you think you’ve disabled it.
 
And when people scoff "well Android phones are cheaper", this is part of the reason. With Apple, you buy a product. With Google, you are the product.

Two different business models, both have their pluses and minuses. Either you pay crazy high prices with huge margins to fund Apple services, or you buy Android devices that tend to be hundreds less then Apple, yet you get higher quality services like Google Maps and Google Photos. Yet you have to give up some data so that advertisers can direct more relevant ads towards you, they don’t know who you are just your someone that likes xyz. Personally I am fine with both models, no harm is being done. Google and Advertising companies don’t know me personally, I trust their security more then anyone else’s. So I have an iPhone with a bunch of Google apps because they are the best. It’s nice having options :)
 
It's bound to, as it's a phone OS created by Google and designed to keep in contact with Google (to a degree dependent on how much you agree to in the settings). I'd imagine an Apple phone conversely sends more data to Apple than an Android phone!
But it does communicate more in general too, so it can give you a somewhat more useful "suggestion / PA / automation" kind of system powered by Google's cloud than iOS/Siri powered internally on the phone, at some expense of privacy of course. If you agree then it GPS tracks you when it detects physical activity so you can look at your route later, for example, wihtout having to remember to ask for it at the start.

It's not necessarily some evil plot to abuse people - they throw things in your face all the time (to the point it gets quite annoying on the Google website) reminding you of your data choices and explaining the privacy implications so that you can make an informed decision as to what you're comfortable sharing.

Though seemingly the press wants everyone to remain brainless and have things decided for them, which makes a "just hammer yes to everything and don't read anything" approach to setting up an Android handset pretty uncomfortable from a privacy perspective.
It doesn’t need to send information to google so that “you can look at your route later.” It can keep the information on the device.
 
Just because Apple implements these practices less than google doesn’t make it right.

Doesn’t make me feel anymore safe.

You're being tracked by cell signal, or any wifi spots you connect to, your activity is tracked by IP address, you're tracked by your credit/debit card usage, there are cameras that take pictures of your tag, etc... I'm just saying, whatever people are afraid of by being tracked...you're being tracked one way or another.

I really don't care either...all they'll find about me is I live a boring life and love technology.

Exactly. In the end it doesn’t really matter.
 
It's bound to, as it's a phone OS created by Google and designed to keep in contact with Google (to a degree dependent on how much you agree to in the settings). I'd imagine an Apple phone conversely sends more data to Apple than an Android phone!
Idle Android devices typically send almost ten times as much data to Google as iOS devices send to Apple's servers, according to new research shared by trade association Digital Content Next.

It's literally the first sentence....
 
People don't really care, the trade offs are worth it to imo, Google's superior voice assistant, it helps improve maps, and search. Popular sites that most of us use are already tracking us, and collecting as much data as they can. If Apple announced today that they're going to start collecting data to improve their services, what are you going to do? Go back to a flip phone? :D
 
People don't really care, the trade offs are worth it to imo, Google's superior voice assistant, it helps improve maps, and search.

I'm happier with the mentality of trying to improving services like voice recognition without data mining. It's a lot more difficult, especially when the technology is in its infancy, but the technology would be fundamentally stronger in the end.

Unless you feel the Enterprise computer needed a 5 year history on every crew member before they could order a Raktajino from the replicator. :p
 
You're being tracked by cell signal, or any wifi spots you connect to, your activity is tracked by IP address, you're tracked by your credit/debit card usage, there are cameras that take pictures of your tag, etc... I'm just saying, whatever people are afraid of by being tracked...you're being tracked one way or another.

I really don't care either...all they'll find about me is I live a boring life and love technology.
I also always enjoy it when people register, access and post on public forums about how much they value their privacy.

On a forum alone you have significant data freely handed out by device and provider, all captured into a database which could be being accessed by anyone with admin rights / credentials.

Facebook proves the vast majority couldn't give a stuff about privacy.
 
And everyone is paying for all that data to be sent, counting against their monthly cap.

Safari should have an option to automatically delete cookies and empty the cache at the end of each session. In fact go ahead and make it “after I leave a website”. Store the logins in your keychain and keep the machine running clean.
 
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I also always enjoy it when people register, access and post on public forums about how much they value their privacy.

On a forum alone you have significant data freely handed out by device and provider, all captured into a database which could be being accessed by anyone with admin rights / credentials.

Facebook proves the vast majority couldn't give a stuff about privacy.
There’s a difference between someone knowing my IP address and an email address of my choosing, and receiving that information only when I choose to interact with the service, and, on the other hand, a service knowing my actual identity and my physical location at all times, even when I am not interacting with the service.
 
You're being tracked by cell signal, or any wifi spots you connect to, your activity is tracked by IP address, you're tracked by your credit/debit card usage, there are cameras that take pictures of your tag, etc... I'm just saying, whatever people are afraid of by being tracked...you're being tracked one way or another.

I really don't care either...all they'll find about me is I live a boring life and love technology.
Here’s the difference: websites usually offer free content, WiFi hotspots offer free services, credit cards do it to better offer promotions, cell companies use it to better serve customers.

Google? They mine the crap outa your data to make money off ads. Also, keep in mind, they are also making premium hardware. The are gauging their customers in monetary value and data. They offer fake opt outs. When are people gonna realize Goog is a scummy company run by scummy people. They could’ve gone the Apple route and made profit off premium hardware. Or they could’ve continued their ad route (WITHOUT being scummy). They chose both.

I don’t support credit card companies, cell companies, etc taking info without permission either but the data they have on you is minimal compared to Goog.

Don’t be evil my ass.
 
Why would you have Chrome open in the background anyway, when you are not using your phone?
Don't most just close running apps when they have finished doing something?
I do always.

With iOS, the app suspends so it doesn't waste battery. It is not necessary to close apps with iOS. Some may prefer it the Android way, but that's part of the reason their phones require much more RAM and generally have battery issues eventually when the processes add up.
 
I take all data transmissions happening from smart phones to the provider/ manufacturers as skeptical... regardless of what is claimed on whether data is anonymized or not. Unless the Manufacturers opensource their platforms, you can not really trust what is being sent and how its being sent.

Also, did the reporter do a test where they opened a Safari tab on Android and compare how many times data is transmitted?
 
There’s a difference between someone knowing my IP address and an email address of my choosing, and receiving that information only when I choose to interact with the service, and, on the other hand, a service knowing my actual identity and my physical location at all times, even when I am not interacting with the service.
Not as much of a difference as you might hope. And who says Google has to know your actual identity. It doesn't know mine.
 
It doesn’t need to send information to google so that “you can look at your route later.” It can keep the information on the device.

Well no that's just an example of what it's for, it does lots of other things with it, learns that if you go to a particular place you tend to play a certain type of music or contact specific people etc and have them ready, to provide a couple of other examples. Things that arguably could be done on the phone eventually, the downsides are processing power and that an iPhone for example isn't continuously improving its intelligence at some remote location - it's in the firmware and every year you get a "Siri can now do one new thing in the next iOS release *applause* okay see you next year"

But yes of course one other thing it's used for is (if you agree to it in the privacy settings) to serve more relevant Google ads which makes their ad service more valuable to the companies to buy off Google and fund their free services.

What doesn't happen is the selling of your data/routes to third parties - that'd actually be very illegal (at least in the EU and UK, not certain about the land of the 'free')

Idle Android devices typically send almost ten times as much data to Google as iOS devices send to Apple's servers, according to new research shared by trade association Digital Content Next.

It's literally the first sentence....

I misread. The rest of the comments about it being a cloud based data processing system still apply...
 
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You're being tracked by cell signal, or any wifi spots you connect to, your activity is tracked by IP address, you're tracked by your credit/debit card usage, there are cameras that take pictures of your tag, etc... I'm just saying, whatever people are afraid of by being tracked...you're being tracked one way or another.

I really don't care either...all they'll find about me is I live a boring life and love technology.

A lot of people make this point, but that certainly doesn't mean you have to just sit there and take it. Privacy is only going to become more and more important to people as more companies monetize your data (Google, Facebook, etc.), it is important to take the steps now to reduce the amount of your personal information is available to companies out there. Apple is taking a lot of steps to reduce the amount of data that gets out there about you, this is a big reason why customers value Apple's stance on privacy.
 
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