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iDocuments Concept (iOS 7)

nutmac said:
I thought you made the point clear on your original post well enough. You are essentially creating a Game Center like app of some sort for "Document & Data". Well, perhaps just the Document part, but similar nevertheless.

But I stand by my earlier post that you are essentially window dressing Document & Data section of Settings app. Yes, you are adding few new interesting features such as showing badge count for each apps, AirDrop, and Safari download manager. But it is essentially just another Springboard supplement feature, joining Game Center, Newstand, and Passport. While that may appear to be the approach Apple is taking, I sincerely hope Apple will fix Springboard once and for all instead.
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That's a better way of explaining it. It is very similar to Game Center, Newstand, and Passport. I see what you mean by it not being necessary, but I think it would be good if people at least had the option to use it. It has a lot more features than Documents & Data in Settings. I saw somebody's mockup of the Settings app having toggles next to each native app. It would be nice to hide certain Springboard apps if you don't use them at all. That way people could just hide the iDocuments app if they feel they don't need to use it (although I personally think it is more useful than Newstand).

This app may target a small group of users (people that want to be productive on iOS instead of use it only for consumer reasons), but I tried to make it as user friendly and marketable as possible to the general public. This could be the first step to the removal of Finder in OS X and the merging of OS X and iOS (if that ever happens). In my WWDC 2013 Concept, I put iDocuments on both OS X Lynx and iOS 7, although Finder still exists in OS X Lynx. iDocuments is just an easier way to manage files, and if file management could be made very easy, it might work on iOS.

I guess we will just have to see what Apple does in iOS 7.
 
Aidoneus said:
But iOS has no need for a universal document manager. All files are managed by the app that created them. Within that app, they can then be exported and shared.

Your concept does nothing but add complexity to what is already possible in iOS today.
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Except they can't be exported, as sandboxing prevents it.

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Aidoneus said:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: It's 2012 - users shouldn't have to deal with a file system.

A file system is not coming to iOS; there probably won't be a file system on the Mac OS for much longer.
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I dunno about that. If I wanna email someone a large Logic project, I'd rather not have to go into Logic, then wait for it to load the entire project then send the email, as opposed to just going into Mail and attaching it.

Apple should make a simplified file system; just like OS X's user's Home folder (minus library) and auto-organize files by type. At least that would be an improvement. Basically, just give us a native way to save stuff from emails/web onto our devices, Apple!
 
FSMBP said:
I dunno about that. If I wanna email someone a large Logic project, I'd rather not have to go into Logic, then wait for it to load the entire project then send the email, as opposed to just going into Mail and attaching it.

Apple should make a simplified file system; just like OS X's user's Home folder (minus library) and auto-organize files by type. At least that would be an improvement. Basically, just give us a native way to save stuff from emails/web onto our devices, Apple!
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That's one of the things this concept would fix.
 
RobeeSVK said:
Well, and what about files that could and should be opened by more than one app?

Unfortunately, I have one app for OCR (pdf), one to take notes, one to organize and also need that pdf as attachment - do you really think that cross-copying/sharing around all sandboxes is a good and ergonomic idea?
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Honestly, that sounds like a mess. Why should you have to switch between various apps to work on the same file?

Basically you want to capture and edit/create content and manipulate it as PDF files or share it as PDf files. So what you need is an app that does all that. With today's overpowered processors and SSD drives this is now possible. I would love the day I could use one app to do all my web design in. From planning to graphic design to coding with a mode switcher at the top or something.

Think outside of the box for a second. I think Apple wants to push in things in a better direction that makes more sense. The only limitations currently are software which is something that can be rectified if developers are smart.

I use Adobe products for my field but I think it is crazy that I have to use a bunch of different expensive apps with different user interfaces and ways of doing things to manipulate the same file types. That serves me no purpose and hinders my workflow.
 
newagemac said:
Honestly, that sounds like a mess. Why should you have to switch between various apps to work on the same file?

Basically you want to capture and edit/create content and manipulate it as PDF files or share it as PDf files. So what you need is an app that does all that. With today's overpowered processors and SSD drives this is now possible. I would love the day I could use one app to do all my web design in. From planning to graphic design to coding with a mode switcher at the top or something.

Think outside of the box for a second. I think Apple wants to push in things in a better direction that makes more sense. The only limitations currently are software which is something that can be rectified if developers are smart.

I use Adobe products for my field but I think it is crazy that I have to use a bunch of different expensive apps with different user interfaces and ways of doing things to manipulate the same file types. That serves me no purpose and hinders my workflow.
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Relying on developers gives an inconsistent experience. Some developers would implement good document management, but other's wouldn't. There isn't as much of a control on the experience that way, which goes against Apple's philosophy. Imagine if you had to manage documents within individual apps on OS X. It would just make things more complex, rather than simple. If you have an image file in a folder, you should be able to open it in any app. That's what iDocuments is allowing. The good thing is that it lets you skip the unnecessary complexities surrounding OS X with nested folders and system files.
 
Something like this needs to be implemented. It's downright pathetic that people cannot apply for jobs online from an iPad. Very few don't ask for an attached resume/cover letter. Trying for some hokey workaround is a good way to eliminate yourself from the competition.
 
ZZ Bottom said:
Something like this needs to be implemented. It's downright pathetic that people cannot apply for jobs online from an iPad. Very few don't ask for an attached resume/cover letter. Trying for some hokey workaround is a good way to eliminate yourself from the competition.
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Now that they have attaching photos in Safari, they could let you attach documents in iOS 7.
 
Well, with iOS 7 being all about flat design, this design won't work anymore. Is there anyway this could be implemented differently? I think document management is going to be important in future iOS versions, at least on the iPad.
 
Small White Car said:
While I'm sure I could find some little details to nitpick with your plan, I don't feel that's the point here. The bottom line is that I like the way you're thinking and I hope Apple is thinking like this too.
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Of course Apple isn't thinking that way. To them there is no reason for us to need to see our documents other than through the apps that access them.

And for most folks that would be correct. They don't need to see them. They just need the apps that can see them to do so as easily as possible. Like perhaps having all PDFs in one bucket that any PDF compat app can see. Having project files for things like Garageband visible for file sharing without all that save to and import from itunes nonsense.

That and perhaps better backup tools like being able to backup SMS and restore them separate from everything else. Or even not back them up if you don't care about keeping them.
 
1. Not happening. Apple isn't going to give iOS a file explorer.

2. Shouldn't this be in the iOS 7 board?
 
pod5g said:
1. Not happening. Apple isn't going to give iOS a file explorer.

2. Shouldn't this be in the iOS 7 board?
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1. At least look at the concept... Hint: Page 1

It's not your average file explorer

2. I posted this before the iOS 7 board existed :cool: Unfortunately, no mods have moved it yet.
 
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