IE drops below 60% market share

maflynn

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wow, ars is reporting the IE worldwide is under 60 for the browser marketshare. I knew Firefox was increasing in popularity, but I had no idea that IE had slipped so much
 

GoCubsGo

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Not surprising. Most people I know using windows (me included) turn to Chrome or Firefox.
 

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Not surprising. Most people I know using windows (me included) turn to Chrome or Firefox.
Not surprising that's what I do at work and my bootcamp partition on my MBP. Still I had no idea it slipped so far down. It just seemed like a little while ago they had 90+ of the market.

overall, I don't think IE8 sux, it seems decent enough, but since going on to firefox, I still prefer that.
 

GoCubsGo

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I can't do that at work unless I take my laptop offsite and install the apps on another network. However, it is the first thing I do. We're not using IE 7 or 8.
 

rdowns

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If corporations didn't lock down the vast majority of their computers, I suspect many would ditch IE for an alternative.
 

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Not surprising that's what I do at work and my bootcamp partition on my MBP. Still I had no idea it slipped so far down. It just seemed like a little while ago they had 90+ of the market.

overall, I don't think IE8 sux, it seems decent enough, but since going on to firefox, I still prefer that.
IE dropped below 80% and kept falling since firefox went mainstream and left the geek catigory in fall of 2004. Firefox hit mainstream at .9 and it has been growing ever since then. My mom likes firefox and my dad likes chrome. I personally am a firefox fan and over the years I have converted countless people.

I find the graph funny in the fact safari has not grown much. It is still where it was in 2004 even though you can use it on windows now compared to back then it was mac only.
 

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If corporations didn't lock down the vast majority of their computers, I suspect many would ditch IE for an alternative.
The issue is many enterprise applications assume that you're using IE, and it gives the support folks an easier job.

I work in a company that isn't as locked down and we use both IE and firefox. The trouble is that some people loaded IE8 or chrome and that is causing support/compatibility issues.

The funny thing with IE8 is that people I think panic after they install it and then just install Ie6 over it (or sms over-writes IE8 with IE6) and their system is then all messed up.
 

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This is only a good thing. For web developers, IE is a total bitch to develop for - constantly lagging in web standards, buggy. Generally, IE is holding back the web. IE8 is a lot better than previous stambles. IE9 sounds like its going to be a lot better - but then in reality microsoft promise the earth and deliver very little, so we shall see. There are also extremely lazy developers / companies who still insist on creating web sites that only work on IE browsers.

I remember a while back some client support employee for a company I used to work for remarked - "why would you want to use another browser?". Fortunately those days are coming to an end. People are beginning to realize that there are way better alternatives to microsoft. My experience with microsoft software is that its a bag of hurt - and on most occasions there far better alternatives.

As others have said - there are businesses still running on IE6, some times due to complete laziness, others due to having software / infrastructure dependant on IE6.

IE is the B.O of the internet browsers.
 

Stella

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What "better" browser works with ActiveX?

Not saying that the retarded, circular cycle of "We need ActiveX so we'll keep writing applications that require it" is justified, but it's the reality of the situation.
Like I said, "on most occasions there far better alternatives".

*most* being the keyword.

I haven't a clue why you are using ActiveX of course, but perhaps there was a better alternative out there so you didn't have to get locked in to IE in the first place?
 

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Once upon a time this garbage was at 0% share (ah, to dream), before MS licensed Mosaic and began to spaghetti-code.
 

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The stat that makes me vomit is the nearly 18% still using IE 6. Can't wait for the day when I can ignore that browser without worrying about shutting out a fifth of potential customers for my clients.
 

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The stat that makes me vomit is the nearly 18% still using IE 6. Can't wait for the day when I can ignore that browser without worrying about shutting out a fifth of potential customers for my clients.
Mostly corporations are still on IE6. My company is and there are enterprise applications that will NOT run on anything different.
 

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Mostly corporations are still on IE6. My company is and there are enterprise applications that will NOT run on anything different.
Yup, and it's getting to be time for them to either a) rewrite their apps, or b) run those apps in VMs and use non-crippled browsers for general internet access.
 

yg17

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If corporations didn't lock down the vast majority of their computers, I suspect many would ditch IE for an alternative.
+1.

I'm stuck with IE at work. At least I can use IE7 which sucks less than 6, but we can't use Firefox or Chrome. :rolleyes:
 

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I'm stuck with IE at work. At least I can use IE7 which sucks less than 6, but we can't use Firefox or Chrome. :rolleyes:
Me too -- I'm stuck / blessed with IE8, but it's still vastly inferior, to me, to FF and Chrome. Recently, the weird issue I have is with the NYT. A number of pages load up properly, and then something happens with a script or something. IE pops up a box saying that the page load had to be aborted, and then even though the whole page was already rendered, it blanks the tab. :rolleyes: It always fails to reload the page in the same tab, following this -- the tab must be closed and then a new tab must be opened. If I'm lucky, the page opens in the new tab without the glitch. It specifically happens on the NYT blog pages. Quite irritating.
 

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The last 3 computers I've had to fix for the dreaded Windows Defender Antivirus Virus have gotten them from using Firefox. Doesn't matter what you use, they all seem to suck on Windows in terms of security. Gotta love how the "secure" browser can install something on a non-admin account still.
 

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That's called user stupidity, every piece of software is vulnerable (especially if you let it run stuff). Safari is usually worst of the bunch.
 

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I remember a while back some client support employee for a company I used to work for remarked - "why would you want to use another browser?"
Yep. I would say quite a few folks still believe this way.

Unfortunately a lot of people still believe that Internet Explorer IS "the internet door" :confused:
Yep. True as well.

Them: "You use Safari?"

Me: "Yes"

Them: "But then how do you access the Internet without IE?"

Me: "With Safari"

Them: "No you can't. You must use IE!"

Me: "But you...."

Them: "To get to the real Internet you must have IE."

Me: "Like I was..."

Them: "That's why Macs are so limited. You can't use the full Internet with a Mac!"

Me: "I can access the Internet using Safari."

Them: "Yeah, right. You don't know what you are talking about."

Me: Shaking my head.

The above conversation has happened to me all too often in the past. Thankfully, now days, I don't hear it as much.

Then again, maybe I don't know what the full Internet is? :p :D
 

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It's bad enough that people thing the Web is "The Internet". What about ftp? E-Mail? Direct clients to data like exist on the iPhone (the Facebook/Flickr apps for example)?
 

SactoGuy18

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I myself use Chrome a lot because as of Version 4.0, it's actually become a very viable and usable web browser with lightning-fast page rendering speeds.
 

kdarling

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Mostly corporations are still on IE6. My company is and there are enterprise applications that will NOT run on anything different.
Truth. Web based apps and consoles were hot when IE6 was king, and that more than half-decade long effect will ripple for years to come.

Yup, and it's getting to be time for them to either a) rewrite their apps, or b) run those apps in VMs and use non-crippled browsers for general internet access.
Unfortunately, corporations have downsized their development teams enormously over the past few years. There's often not enough manpower to rewrite apps that already work... especially not just for a reason like this.
 
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