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If Apple Designed a Turntable, This Is Probably What It Would Look Like
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Yeah well I have some pretty good sterio gear but my turn table is a Denon automatic...$NZ440 approx.
The cartridge and stylus cost in the thousands....way more than the turntable. I will only play with an automatic one and the Denon is good.
On the top plate, left side, towards the front. A single push and release turns the platter on or off. Holding the button down would probably switch speed. This, at least, was how it used to be done, starting with the Linn Axis turntable, which, while not cheap, was something mere mortals could aspire to own.
You'd be guessing correctly.
I've really enjoyed Ive's designs and innovation over the years, I like his minimalistic approach. But let's be honest here, this is NOT worth $60,000. That's basically two Tesla Model 3's or a really nice BMW. I don't care what level of design went into this, it's not $60,000 worth and to call it "modest" is an absolute BS statement from someone who has so much money they don't even know how much is in their accounts because they are so rich. Ive, come back down to reality, come back to when you were at Apple in 1997 and realize that not everyone is filthy rich.
LoveFrom did not set the price. All they did was design the hinges and the speed dial.
I love records, but this is way too expensive. My car was 1/2 this price.
This justifies his ouster for me.
Can you imagine the nonsense you'd deal with if you had to listen to someone who's willing to design this at this price point?
Can you imagine the nonsense you'd deal with if you had to listen to someone who's willing to design this at this price point?
Wow, $60,000 to play media that brand new right out of the cover is going to have marred audio with endless static tics and pops. I hated that in 1970 and I hate it to this day and haven't pulled out a record in 25 years because of it.
And don't get me started on groove distortion and mastering all bass content into mono and reducing it (and volume) so the needle doesn't jump out of the grooves. And yes, I've released an LP and a couple of singles over the long years.
Sign me up. And might as well make the price $66,666.66.
And don't get me started on groove distortion and mastering all bass content into mono and reducing it (and volume) so the needle doesn't jump out of the grooves. And yes, I've released an LP and a couple of singles over the long years.
Sign me up. And might as well make the price $66,666.66.
Given what they cost and lost opportunity of investing that money I would hope they last 340 years.
Sounds like your experience was marred by poor equipment and general uncleanliness. Condolences!
I saw this posted. Is this true of the Linn turntables?, they do not have an auto stop when the needle gets to the end of the record and does not have an auto return when it detects it's reached the end of the record? Surely that cannot be true for such expensive turntables or is it just this turntable does not have that function?
Pretty sure Linn know what they're doing. Hey, send a link to your LP so we can review it.
Sondek LP12 turntable with Karousel bearing |
Kore aluminium sub-chassis bonded to a machined-from-solid armboard |
Trampolin suspended aluminium base board |
Lingo hybrid internal/external power supply |
Arko 7075-grade aluminium gimballed tonearm |
Kendo moving coil (MC) cartridge |
Most good turn tables don’t have auto return because you don't have all the auto return arms, levers and cogs rattling around under the plinth....
I believe it raises the arm, plus there is a speed selection button on it. It’s part of the design.
To me, a 'good' turntable is one that will return the arm once the end of the record is reached instead of having me move the arm myself once it's reached the end of the record. The last thing I want to hear is the constant sound of 'white noise' of the end of the record which is basically telling me the needle has reached the end of the record and needs me to return it to it's place.
Despite the fact that I would never buy anything that expensive, it doesn’t have a pitch control? I wouldn’t own a turntable that didn’t have a pitch control.
I completely understand. This turn table is not for you or me. I wouldn’t be able to appreciate the sound quality anyway. But seeing only 250 are being made and sold for $60,000 each, this is something I’m gunna have to skip At least they will come over and install it for you. The value keeps getting better! 😂
I don’t think you’d hear the clicking noise as it is auto lift I think.
I think you’ll find it doesn’t need it. If people need to change the pitch to sound like something that was never intended, then they can buy something from AWA, Technics or get a crystal radio or something. Before people whinge about what this doesn’t have, maybe they should research the product first. https://www.linn.co.uk/technology/exakt
Aahhh so the tone arm will lift once it's reached the end of the record so as to prevent the needle from wearing down but it wont return. If I was going to pay $60,000 for a turntable, I would expect the tone arm to return to its position once the end of the record is reached. I cannot understand why people would compromise on such a thing.
I've got an old AIWA mutli deck hifi system that I've had for over 14 years and on the turntable the tone arm returns to it's position once the record has finished playing and even when it returns it stops the turntable from rotating. I wonder if this is a feature that has been removed from all top end turntables.
No high end turntables have auto-lift/auto-return or other convenience features like this, and they’re generally not seen as desirable by the market that’s paying for them either, as they compromise other aspects of the tonearm’s performance.
Typically it’s not super hard to just lift the tonearm at the end of the side… you have to be there to flip the disc anyway. So it’s definitely not endless!
I could see hearing the runout groove for a bit being annoying if you’re multitasking or distracted with something else, but these days I think vinyl is rarely used as background filler - it’s for people who want to pay attention to the music as their primary point of focus. So, they’re typically present and ready to lift the tonearm when the music demands it.
Absolutely no one can hear this. People could not hear the difference between a $100 turntable and a $500,000 platter spinner. And you think a tonearm lifter matters? C'mon.
That "poor equipment" is called vinyl and needles. Prior poster is absolutely correct:
Yes. Exactly. And that's exactly what we hear on vinyl-to-digital conversions - pops, tics, hisses.
But "audiophiles" never ever detected digital master to vinyl pressings, as the Mobile Fidelity digital master to vinyl fraud confirms, because digital is superior in every way. Every way. Well, so much for that premium "all-analog" product and being able to hear digital. Nope. Vinyl mastered from CDs, fooling all the analog audiophiles -- it's just too good. Too good. And utterly incontrovertible.
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At this point what you’re posting is so laughably incorrect I have to assume you’re just trolling, therefore I will no longer validate your posts with any sort of response. Such jokes are not worth the time or effort to refute.
Given what they cost and lost opportunity of investing that money I would hope they last 340 years.
I mean not everything they make is $60,000, his speakers were probably less than a grand in the early 90s
Very true!
In the early 1990s, they had more than one speaker model under $1,000 per pair. At one point, the least expensive model ($600 or so per pair) was the single best selling speaker at a local audio dealer. I remember hearing it being suggested as a possibility to someone thinking of buying an inexpensive bottom NAD CD player/amp combination.
From a fast check, it seems their current entry point speaker might be about $2,000. More than the 1990s (even adjusting for inflation), but I've known normal poeople (admitteldy with good incomes) who have bought in that price range.