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The LP-12 is one of the best turntables available in the world, it's been right at the top for many years and is worth every penny (talking about their standard models, not specifically this one). It's clear that the majority of posts in this thread already are being made by people who have never heard of Linn.


This is a prime example, there may be turntables that look like this and cost $200 but they don't sound anything like a Linn.

This limited edition is somewhat more expensive than the normal version.

I'm not sure that Jony designing the hinges and speed switch will make any actual difference to the sound quality though.

You are correct. It is one of the very best turntables money can buy. If you have good quality vinyl (which sadly is rare) then it can sound amazing, from personal listening experience. Personally I prefer lossless and HD streaming but I can see the appeal. It is probably the gold standard for turntables since the mid 1970s, and continually improved.

I looked up LP-12s and most of them don't even cross pass $800.

This Ive designed turntable is a joke.
BS. They cost new between $5000 and $30000 depending on the version. I wouldn't pay for that either, but that is the price. And they are very good sounding indeed when fed with quality vinyl.


Otherwise, they have a really nice sounding streaming amp, the Majik. They are not alone at that level. There is Naim for example, also a top quality British brand.
 
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Day 1 Preorder! And at $60k, it's a steal!

Now I can listen to my scratched up Rod Steward LPs! Winning all around!
 
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Can you describe what a $60,000 turntable (plus god-knows-how-much extra for preamps and amps and speakers) sounds like compared to a decent $300 turntable and decent cartridge connected to decent consumer electronics? Hard to imagine the grooves on the piece of plastic hold such magic.

I remember, back in the day, having purchased an electronic gadget for my rack of equipment (I think it was from Dolby) that removed the pops and clicks from records. It didn't really work.

An LP12 in a nice system sounds a LOT better than a $300 turntable, there is no comparison. If you have a good quality vinyl which is not so common. Is it worth 20-100 times more (depending on which version of LP12), no of course not, there is a limited improvement. The difference with a good $2000 deck is already more subtle.
 
It is not thin enough to be an Ive design. It has square corners. I wonder if there is any way to change the cartridge or is it permanent and you just throw away the turntable when it is time to change the cartridge?
 
Looks pretty normal. Pro-ject has been making turntables like this for years, among others.
 
Jesus wept!



You'd think they were digging wells to provide villagers in Sudan with fresh water! Working on a cure for, oh I dunno, cancer or HIV.

But, no, designing rich men's toys is what Ive thinks is life-affirming and joyful.

What an utter tosser.
Um, isn't MacRumours exactly a site that talks about expensive toys for rich people? What is this rhetoric?
 
The luxury $60,000 record player is the first non-Apple hardware project Ive is known to have been involved in since he and four other colleagues left the company in 2019 to found the design firm LoveFrom.

The premium piece of audio technology features many of the classic hallmarks of an Ive-approved product...
But it's too thick. Way way too thick. Thickness is not a classic hallmark of an Ive-approved product.
 
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And with vinyl, as with all audio, a lot of the quality depends on the pressing and the recording (as well as the selection of cartridge and phono stage). It’s a very “garbage in, garbage out” hobby. A $60K turntable can’t make a mediocre recording sound good. In fact, it’s quite the opposite, the higher end your system, the more the flaws of a recording are revealed.
Not to forget that each time you play a record you are literally degrading it.
 
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Frankly, I don't get the whole vinyl obsession of late. For years in the 70s and 80s we (my family) suffered from pops and hisses in our music because of the imperfections introduced by vinyl and magnetic tape. Then came CDs and eventually digital losses music. These times are a godsend to people who have suffered through that stuff in the past. Why go back?!?
I agree. I started buying cassettes in the 1970s as a teenager. Then I realized how poorly so many of them were recorded (tape hiss and muted high frequencies), so I switched to vinyl LPs, eventually owning over 400 of them. But the pops, ticks, and scratches always annoyed me, so I was thrilled when CDs came out. Yes, there have been plenty of poorly mastered CDs, but the good ones sound great. I never understood the argument that LPs sound "warmer." I have a fairly high-end sound system, which exposes the flaws of any recording, regardless of the medium. In the late 1990s, I sold my LPs and, over time, replaced the albums I liked with CDs, keeping only a few collector's items and LPs that were never released on CD. I long since ripped them to high-quality MP4A files. These days, I usually listen to new music on Apple Music, which sounds fine to my aging but still good ears.

I do get that some people like the physicality of LPs. The one thing I miss about them is the large-size cover art and reading the liner notes and lyrics. CDs often include those features, too, if on a smaller scale. It's the same for me with books. I was thrilled when e-books came out, because my wife and I had run out of space on our bookshelves. It quickly became apparent, though, that e-books are fine for novels, business books, and so on, but not for books that incorporate illustrations, custom fonts, or other elements designed to take advantage of print medium. But I won't claim that the words themselves are more "magical" in printed form versus electronic form.
 
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Good for Jony and for the world. Too bad for the haters.
These are certainly not for everybody, it’s not an iPod 🤔

There’s still people out there who uses these kinds of things for their music.
Ah well, not me, I stream what I listen to, not often music either, to 2 different pairs of speakers.
As long as the old Apples Expresses works I'm good. I bet Jony were involved in them back in the days, so it’s good stuff.
 
As an audio enthusiast there is no reason to spend $60k or anything near it to get the finest sound the turntable part of a system can produce. If you have the money to burn and you want it, buy it. It is no different than someone with big bucks who wants a super car and can afford it.

An iPhone plays music. Does that mean I shouldn't buy a McIntosh system should I choose to just because you are critical of what it would cost or of the perceived ego of the person who designed it?

From an artistic point, Ives sees it as art. That is his call to make. It is in the eye of the beholder. I doubt he had the slightest thing to do with the electronics and engineering. He doesn't design or engineer what is inside.

Linn has a reputation for quality products and it is deserved. This somewhat one-off variation and the heaps of vitriol offered by more than a few OPs don't seem to say too much about anyone other than the OP making the post. Everybody is an expert when they have internet anonymity.

To those dumping on Ives, you may have missed/not read/ignored what it said about his relationship with Linn. Ives is an easy target. Most very wealthy people who speak out or put themselves out there are.

1. The design work was done pro bono
2. Ives is not an owner of the company. $60k or 50 cents, it does appear any of the money ends up in his pocket.
 
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