If apple update mac pro, I will buy it

[Karpfish]

Stop complaining like a little bi*ch.Since when does apple owe you an upgrade on anything. They are focusing on Leopard and iPhone and they are considering the 8-core an upgrade most likely. Cn you tell me what you need more than the x1900xt for? PRobably not. I'm sure 95% of the people here do not, and they are just the kind of people who want everything new and complain about it all over the internet.

Yeah, but the Mac Pro has been the same for a year. Did you forget that? Sure if they update next year it will be faster and cheaper. But why would I buy the year old model now when an update is imminent at last by the end of the year?

I think you are deciding what our "mentality" so that is suits your argument. MY mentality is to buy when a product is updated. The eight core update to ME is not an update, nor will I be spending over $1000 to upgrade to it anyway, when soon quad cores will be faster and cheaper and could easily trickle their way into the Mac Pro on the base end.

So this isn't about waiting forever, it is about using my money in a way that makes sense and buying now does not make sense. As I have said and as this thread title says, if it was updated today in a way that I thought was good I would buy today. Everyone on these threads tries to use the "you could wait forever so buy now" crap to justify their own purchase. DO you really think posting in these thread about how "You decided to not wait" is really any better than what is happening here? Please.

 

[Gloor]

Yes those who have proceeded to buy the first gen 8 core are very down on those of us who are still waiting for a 2007 Stoakley-Seaburg motherboard and a newer-faster stock graphics card. But wait we do. The price of a complete 8-core Mac Pro is closer to $6,000 not $2500. That is why I wait like you. But please note it's not like it's not going to happen as your topic title implies. It's merely a matter of when. My guess is August because it will have been a year since the first gen Mac Pro was announced. And Intel's Clovertown prices are scheduled to plunge at the end of July. While it could be as late as October when the last gen G5 PowerMacs were announced a year and a three quarters ago, to avoid product spotlight confusion, August is more likely so that October can only be all about Leopard.

I checked the link and it made me believe that Intel already released Stoakley platform. Is that correct?

 

[Umbongo]

I checked the link and it made me believe that Intel already released Stoakley platform. Is that correct?

Nope it's not out yet.

 

[skye12]

It just works out that about the time the MP is updated I'll be ready to
buy. Every once in awhile we reach these "plateau's," I call them, that are
great times to buy.

An added bonus is Leopard. October is the month if you can wait imo.

 

[Gloor]

Do we know when Stoakley is going to be released?

 

[Glass]

I am not a fool

I just purchased a mac pro. I also purchased the 4 gig upgrade from crucial, and a few extra hard drives.. I got the x1900 upgrade option too.

I know its all about a year old.. and I don't really even 'need' a computer right now. I could use it though, and I am completely happy with the specs and price. So I went for it and plan to enjoy it everyday. If a crazy new computer comes out next week that's okay with me, and I think most people on the market probably think like this. If you want or need a computer.. go get it. you'll be using it for 3-4 years at least anyhow..

Cheers

 

[slughead]

I think the problem is that people want the best bang for the buck, and are waiting for the new Mac Pro models to come out, are pissed with all the delays.

Some are suffering financially or are being forced into utilizing temporary solutions.

I've got a friend who has essentially 'called it quits' on buying a MP after the bust at WWDC and may not be purchasing until 2008.

Not everyone can afford to buy a year-old computer at year-old prices. Some people have to be more thrifty, and with the promise of a revised mac pro just around the corner, they can't really afford to pass up the opportunity.

Thus far Apple has delayed leopard and has been sedentary in their MP updates. People who were counting on all these things coming together this summer have been totally screwed by Apple and the iPhone.

 

[Umbongo]

Thus far Apple has delayed leopard and has been sedentary in their MP updates. People who were counting on all these things coming together this summer have been totally screwed by Apple and the iPhone.

I guess the problem here is that they were going on rumours mostly started on places like this where people turn what they want into "what's comming". If more people considered, Intel's roadmaps,Apple's history of product revision (especially during the new Intel cycles), and applied some common sense they would have seen that new MPs weren't comming "next week" but at the earliest some time mid summer.

 

[suneohair]

Stop complaining like a little bi*ch.Since when does apple owe you an upgrade on anything. They are focusing on Leopard and iPhone and they are considering the 8-core an upgrade most likely. Cn you tell me what you need more than the x1900xt for? PRobably not. I'm sure 95% of the people here do not, and they are just the kind of people who want everything new and complain about it all over the internet.

What is your problem? You must be trying to justify your purchase too huh?

I am in no way complaining, I have having a discusion with people who are waiting for an upgrade like me. I don't even want the X1900XT, I don't game. I do want something newer than the base 7300GT, and when they do that I am sure it will stil be out of date.

You are right, Apple doesn't owe me a damn thing. However, I am not STUPID enough to buy when they will be updating it and when the Mac Pro is a year old.

I have no problem waiting. And like I said, I am discussing possiblities with people who are waiting as well. Why don't you go spend your time doing something else instead of complaining about the people who are "complaining".

I suggest you check your attitude, if you don't want to hear people "complain" don't read the thread.

I guess the problem here is that they were going on rumours mostly started on places like this where people turn what they want into "what's comming". If more people considered, Intel's roadmaps,Apple's history of product revision (especially during the new Intel cycles), and applied some common sense they would have seen that new MPs weren't comming "next week" but at the earliest some time mid summer.

They will come when they come. I decided I can wait. Hell, I will get more reading and studying done anyhow. I don't understand why some of you feel the need to come in here and bash us for deciding to wait and being slightly frustrated with the lack of updates at WWDC, the most likley time to upgrade (note: I did not want fanfare, I just wanted an update).

But whatever, I will just wait. Some of you should take Karpfishs' advice and stop acting like little b*tches, including Karpfish himself.

 

[DavoMrMac]

Just wanted to chime in, with all these people saying "Why are people moaning?"… speculating about machines that don't even exist… wanting to guess at when a new model will be out…

Well, after all, this forum is all part of Mac Rumors, so enjoy

 

[IlluminatedSage]

apple needs to start updating their mac pros more frequently. i am in the market of buying a new one. but the old model is so unattractive cost wise.

want it with blu-ray built in.

 

[tribe3]

apple needs to start updating their mac pros more frequently. i am in the market of buying a new one. but the old model is so unattractive cost wise.

want it with blu-ray built in.

Sure, it will be great to buy a $4000 computer (once you put some RAM and Hard drives) and have it get outdated every 3 or 4 months...

You have consumer PCs for that, with consumer processors and components.

The Mac Pro as much "outdated" as it might be is still the most powerful workstation on the market and it will rock with all the pro apps that you throw at it - even with the GT7300 card.

Maybe Apple should come out with a gamers machine, with the cheaper but still powerful consumer processors, mobo, and other bits, but with the latest and gratest graphic cards (even though the Ati X1900 will play any game at full rez with very decent fps)

I think Apples policy with their Pro line is OK, and you don't hear anybody that uses the MP for serious work complaining about the machine being slow or old.

 

[ob81]

Sure, it will be great to buy a $4000 computer (once you put some RAM and Hard drives) and have it get outdated every 3 or 4 months...

You have consumer PCs for that, with consumer processors and components.

The Mac Pro as much "outdated" as it might be is still the most powerful workstation on the market and it will rock with all the pro apps that you throw at it - even with the GT7300 card.

Maybe Apple should come out with a gamers machine, with the cheaper but still powerful consumer processors, mobo, and other bits, but with the latest and gratest graphic cards (even though the Ati X1900 will play any game at full rez with very decent fps)

I think Apples policy with their Pro line is OK, and you don't hear anybody that uses the MP for serious work complaining about the machine being slow or old.

I agree m8. The Mac Pro as it is, is VERY powerful, and evidence of its longevity is shown with previous systems such as the Power Mac G5 that people still use today(would have even longer life had the entire "intel" thing not happened). Apple is growing. What we must ask ourselves is:
1: What is bringing in the most money for Apple(comp-wise)?
2: What audience is buying into Macs?

Pro-level to amateur photographers, musicians, and artist use Macs. This group used Macs way before the big hype that we see now, with the influx of younger buyers (again, a lot of amateur digital life users). I agree that with this influx of younger buyers, most want a more powerful system, but one thats catered more so to the gaming community.

People stress that they are waiting for a new system, mainly because the current one, though to be one of the more powerful systems available, is still arguably a sub performer in the gaming world.

 

[shipdestroyer]

Newsflash: computer parts are outdated quickly, and Apple issues relatively few hardware upgrades.

 

[suneohair]

I agree m8. The Mac Pro as it is, is VERY powerful, and evidence of its longevity is shown with previous systems such as the Power Mac G5 that people still use today(would have even longer life had the entire "intel" thing not happened). Apple is growing. What we must ask ourselves is:
1: What is bringing in the most money for Apple(comp-wise)?
2: What audience is buying into Macs?

Pro-level to amateur photographers, musicians, and artist use Macs. This group used Macs way before the big hype that we see now, with the influx of younger buyers (again, a lot of amateur digital life users). I agree that with this influx of younger buyers, most want a more powerful system, but one thats catered more so to the gaming community.

People stress that they are waiting for a new system, mainly because the current one, though to be one of the more powerful systems available, is still arguably a sub performer in the gaming world.

I am far from a gamer. In fact, I play zero PC games. So spare me the "influx of gamers to the Mac stuff." I have been using Macs for about 3 years now, I come from a long history of building computers. So I know my stuff and I know when to buy and when not to buy. And this is a bad time to buy a Mac Pro. There are HUGE price drops next month, HUGE!

With that in mind do you really think it is foolish to wait? I think. And shipdestroyer, no duh. Parts are outdated quickly, thanks for the new information. And yes, Apple released few hardware updates, however the Mac Pro has been the same for close to a year.

Yes the Mac Pro is a beast, I had one last year, but it will be even more of a beast by the end of year. And that wait is worth it to me. No one is saying the Mac Pro is garbage, I am saying it is outdated and with new pricing and parts on the horizon, I would rather wait and be smart with my money than to buy now.

If you don't want to discuss Mac Pro update information, please see yourself out of this thread. Go use your Mac Pros, please. I don't understand what drives some of you to come in here and knock on people for waiting when you do nothing but make generalizations and are horribly rude.

 

[ob81]

I am far from a gamer. In fact, I play zero PC games. So spare me the "influx of gamers to the Mac stuff." I have been using Macs for about 3 years now, I come from a long history of building computers. So I know my stuff and I know when to buy and when not to buy. And this is a bad time to buy a Mac Pro. There are HUGE price drops next month, HUGE!

With that in mind do you really think it is foolish to wait? I think. And shipdestroyer, no duh. Parts are outdated quickly, thanks for the new information. And yes, Apple released few hardware updates, however the Mac Pro has been the same for close to a year.

Yes the Mac Pro is a beast, I had one last year, but it will be even more of a beast by the end of year. And that wait is worth it to me. No one is saying the Mac Pro is garbage, I am saying it is outdated and with new pricing and parts on the horizon, I would rather wait and be smart with my money than to buy now.

If you don't want to discuss Mac Pro update information, please see yourself out of this thread. Go use your Mac Pros, please. I don't understand what drives some of you to come in here and knock on people for waiting when you do nothing but make generalizations and are horribly rude.

Erm, I guess I didn't make it clear that I for one am waiting. I plan on waiting until about Oct 15th. I figure an update will be out well before then.
I am all for buying now though, the computer is still awesome.
Personally, Apple is up 3-0 on me. They got me when I bought my 12" powerbook. They got me when I got my Macbook. They got me after I got my G5 iSight iMac too. I will be damned if I let them get me when I get my Mac Pro!!

Weeks after I got my powerbook and iMac the whole intel thing popped off.

 

[macenforcer]

These threads are funny for this reason.


People who need the 8 core mac pro want to wait for something even faster.

Everyone else just buys the quad. There is no market left for the 8 core. LOL.

 

[suneohair]

These threads are funny for this reason.


People who need the 8 core mac pro want to wait for something even faster.

Everyone else just buys the quad. There is no market left for the 8 core. LOL.

Wrong. If you have money to shell out for the 8-core then go for it. You are getting the fastest quad Xeons out there. Unless you are waiting for the 45nm chips there is no reason to wait now if you want octo.

Now, if they want 8-core but are still unhappy with the video offerings... well they have the right to wait. Since the current offerings are horribly outdated.

And again, an all 8-core line at the todays pricing is very likely considering the huge price drops coming.

I don't think it is about waiting for something faster, but naturally you like are the king of assumptions and generalizations to further your weak arguments. Talking about being bored...

Erm, I guess I didn't make it clear that I for one am waiting. I plan on waiting until about Oct 15th. I figure an update will be out well before then.
I am all for buying now though, the computer is still awesome.
Personally, Apple is up 3-0 on me. They got me when I bought my 12" powerbook. They got me when I got my Macbook. They got me after I got my G5 iSight iMac too. I will be damned if I let them get me when I get my Mac Pro!!

Weeks after I got my powerbook and iMac the whole intel thing popped off.

Don't let them get you this time! Just wait it out! I will be here for support

 

[cube]

These threads are funny for this reason.


People who need the 8 core mac pro want to wait for something even faster.

Everyone else just buys the quad. There is no market left for the 8 core. LOL.

- There's people waiting for 2-core or 4-core single socket Core 2 tower.
- There's people waiting for Seaburg, regardless of the number of cores (RNC).
- There's people waiting for better graphics cards, RNC.
- There's people waiting for Intel (so Apple) price cuts, RNC.
- I doubt there's more than a few people wating for faster octocore.

 

[72930]

If the Mac Pro line-up went 8-core only...it would seem a bit odd to have a 4x jump from consumer to pro machines...

 

[macenforcer]

- There's people waiting for 2-core or 4-core single socket Core 2 tower.
- There's people waiting for Seaburg, regardless of the number of cores (RNC).
- There's people waiting for better graphics cards, RNC.
- There's people waiting for Intel (so Apple) price cuts, RNC.
- I doubt there's more than a few people wating for faster octocore.

Umm you forgot blue ray.

 

[Umbongo]

If the Mac Pro line-up went 8-core only...it would seem a bit odd to have a 4x jump from consumer to pro machines...

Yeah, really there are many options open to Apple, sadly for the consumer it looks like most choices hinge on what they want to do with price points and marketing, and what Jobs thinks is cool.

 

[macenforcer]

Wrong. If you have money to shell out for the 8-core then go for it. You are getting the fastest quad Xeons out there. Unless you are waiting for the 45nm chips there is no reason to wait now if you want octo.

Now, if they want 8-core but are still unhappy with the video offerings... well they have the right to wait. Since the current offerings are horribly outdated.

And again, an all 8-core line at the todays pricing is very likely considering the huge price drops coming.

I don't think it is about waiting for something faster, but naturally you like are the king of assumptions and generalizations to further your weak arguments. Talking about being bored...



Don't let them get you this time! Just wait it out! I will be here for support

Wrong. Argument has no basis.

 

[Wild-Bill]

These threads are funny for this reason.


People who need the 8 core mac pro want to wait for something even faster.

Everyone else just buys the quad. There is no market left for the 8 core. LOL.

I haven't seen anyone waiting for "faster 8 cores". It's about the OUTDATED VIDEO CARDS. Plain and simple.

 

[sonarghost]

Newsflash: computer parts are outdated quickly, and Apple issues relatively few hardware upgrades.

for some reason i really liked this simple but enlightening statement...