If apple used the micro sim on the new iPhone...

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  1. Shorties macrumors 6502a

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    Would that leave more room in the device for an extra memory chip? So that there would be a potential 128GB iPhone? Or even if they did have the extra space would they still limit it to the single 64GB chip? (Or possibly use that extra space for things like front facing camera or higher quality rear camera)
     
  2. mickbab macrumors 65816

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    If apple used the micro sim on the new iPhone...then there would be outrage. The entire mobile phone market is based around the standard form of sim card. It is okay (well, reasonably okay) for them to use a micro sim in the iPad because it is going to be used less as a 3G device, so they can use a less popular format. They could not do this with the iPhone.
     
  3. Shorties thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well but looking at this: [​IMG]

    Couldn't you just cut a full sized sim down using some sort of device if you needed to get your contacts off of it? I mean an iPhone comes with its own pre activated sim card anyway, I don't think most people transfer their old sim to their new iPhone.
     
  4. vizkiz macrumors 6502a

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    I think the only reason they used the microSIM on the iPad was so that iPhone owners could not swap it into the iPad. I'm pretty sure it would not leave any extra room for more flash memory.
    The Toshiba chip is on the backside of the circuit board, the reverse side of the SIM card area. Judging by the side of the flash memory chip, even with a micro-SIM, they would not have any room for another chip on the opposite side.
    Check attached image below.
     

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    Over here that's exactly what you do. I'm going to guess that most of Europe works the same way.
     
  6. Kingcodez macrumors 6502

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    Whenever asking "if I did X, would that let me get more of Y" Remember that Apple isn't driven by the modding community, they are just a bunch of old dudes riding some kid's idea to the bank. They build stuff that works, that is cheap, that max out profits.

    We all love to tinker but you don't buy an iPhone if you are a tinkerer, there's not enough to tinker with. If I wanted to tinker I'd buy a thinkpad so I ca yank it open and reroute cooling systems and smear thermal paste all over everything. I buy a mac so I don't have to do that, so in the 99 percent likely hood that I'll break the device it doesn't happen.

    Even if it saved space, Apple wouldn't do it. They like making you choose between your arm, and your leg. Plus it would cost money to get in to, to change the manufacturing process, ect ect. If you want more ridiculously overpriced memory, buy a bigger phone.
     
  7. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    If Apple used the micro-SIM in the new iPhone, that would completely defeat the purpose of using the micro-SIM in the iPad. iPhone users would then be able to swap their iPhone SIM card into their iPad and avoid the cost of iPad 3G service. This is the only possible reason for using a micro-SIM (a format designed for use in microelectronics) in the iPad (which tear-downs reveal has no shortage of empty space).
     
  8. psyjayne macrumors newbie

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    Sim Card??

    Will the Sim card be accessible in the ipad does anyone know?
     
  9. vizkiz macrumors 6502a

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    It has to be. What if there is a SIM issue, or they want to change the account that it's on?
     
  10. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    Yep, there is a slot on the right hand side, about +/-7 cm from the bottom. The style is similar to the iPhone's SIM tray and is ejected the same way.
     
  11. doubleatheman macrumors 6502a

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    I would be all for it if apple use it. If it allowed more of other stuff to be crammed inside.

    Really we get a new sim with each iphone anyway. And who actually swaps sims, or stores contacts on them anymore? I haven't had the need to do any of that for a long time.

    I cant see why Apple would not use it.
     
  12. Shorties thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah I really misjudged the size of those Toshiba chips, and as someone else said it would defeat the purpose of using microsim in the iPad. (Though according to engadget there are some extra features to microsim over regular sim, but it doesn't seem to mean anything at this point in time). But looking at that picture, I actually have to say I could still see them doing it to make room for the connectors for a front facing camera, and maybe a rear facing flash, because those connectors take up a surprising amount of room as well. (I actually had never really looked at the guts of an iPhone before).
     
  13. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Many people do. Maybe not you.
    The original simcard used is an international standard.
    Many iphones are sold factory unlocked just for that reason.
     
  14. Shorties thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I mentioned the same thing that doubleatheman said earlier, but yeah I have to take it back. I don't think Sim cards are that important here in the states, but it seems like internationally they are much more of a standard. Which makes sense considering the world uses GSM, and here only AT&T, and T-Mobile do.
     
  15. ThatsMeRight macrumors 68020

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    Well, than you just cut the plastic away if it's such a big deal.

    I'm going to request a Duo Sim (two the same sim cards). One I will put in my iPhone, and the other one in my 3G iPad. Always unlimited internet, 2mbps.
     
  16. goobot macrumors 603

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    +1 for microsim. any way who says they put it in the ipad to keep iphones sims away? first of the wifi model looks packed so i can only guess the 3g is really tight so they may have used i to save room. second maybe they wanted to keep t-moblie away? and 3 we all know apple likes to make new standards
     
  17. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    The Wifi model is not at all packed inside....

    [​IMG]

    I doubt that they would have kept T-mobile away. Honestly, it makes more business sense to use 3FF because they want AT&T to make more money so they themselves can make more money.
     
  18. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    They are becoming more important in the states as people are getting to the point were they have older cell phones that are great to use for high risk activities.

    I have put my sim in my old cell phone when I knew I knew it was going to be a risk of me braking my cell phone or I flipped to an older phone that had much better battery life for a camping trip I went on because I knew the phone could make it threw the entire weekend with out being charged. My current phone at the time would only last a little more than a day (or cases 2 I took both phones fully charged and just switch them out when the other died)

    The Sims card allowed me to do the above switch the day I needed to with out having to call the carrier to do it.

    Point is people have 1-2 old phones now days that are very useful in certain events. I know when I go skiing again I will be taking my old LG phone with me on the slopes and leaving my Blackberry in the hotel room and when I get back for the evening I will flip the sim card again. I would much rather break my old phone than my current one. Hell if I broke it would just an old well moment. It was my old phone any howl. Hard to do that with out a sim card. This is also in the US using my AT&T sim card. If the iPhone when Micro sim card it would complete mess up people being able to do that.
     

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