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Please use caution in following this BAD ADVICE.

These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. (Nevada also has a one-party consent statute, but the state Supreme Court has interpreted it as an all-party rule.)

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear.

Federal law and most state laws also make it illegal to disclose the contents of an illegally intercepted call or communication.


source: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/

Dave

It would just be better to let them know your going to record the conversation just like the let you know that they may record this conversation for quality assurance. Tell them the same thing.
 
Please use caution in following this BAD ADVICE.

These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it. (Nevada also has a one-party consent statute, but the state Supreme Court has interpreted it as an all-party rule.)

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.

Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear.

Federal law and most state laws also make it illegal to disclose the contents of an illegally intercepted call or communication.


source: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/

Dave


Good thing im in alaska, and i will use long arm statute on them in court, they come to alaska and use our states rules. we win. we dont require both parties to record statements here, we can sue anyone we want to here as well, im currently sueing a lady who ran redlight and totalled my car out, screw her. but thats besides the point. look up your state laws, you can do it if your state permits, and use your states laws to drag them to your court.
 
Good thing im in alaska, and i will use long arm statute on them in court, they come to alaska and use our states rules. we win. we dont require both parties to record statements here, we can sue anyone we want to here as well, im currently sueing a lady who ran redlight and totalled my car out, screw her. but thats besides the point. look up your state laws, you can do it if your state permits, and use your states laws to drag them to your court.

well good luck suing AT&T. It will probably cost you more then what the phone is worth to sue them so good luck. It would be better just to return the phone.
 
they are letting me keep the iPhone for 199.99 and sent me a letter saying that as well.
 
It happened to me and I called them, said once system updates and they find out they will charge you full price for the phone not the upgrade discount of 200. They also said you have 14 days to send it back.

They can not charge your credit card again without your authorization.
ATT can charge your cell bill account
 
They can not charge your credit card again without your authorization.
ATT can charge your cell bill account

yup,also how much is an off contract 16gb going for? wondering how much to sell it for.
 
I really feel bad for some of you.... have you no integrity? Honor? You want something for nothing and that is exactly what's wrong with people in society. Those of you that got a "free" phone need to call your provider and send it back/drop it off. Nothing is free and you will end up paying for it one way or another.
 
I have two canceled phones on the way. Not sure how I'll handle it. Already have my two iphone4s'.

For all those without sin who continue to cast stones, this isn't about integrity, morals, or ethics. It's about, "can I keep the phone for $200".
 
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I have two canceled phones on the way. Not sure how I'll handle it. Already have my two iphone4s'.

For all those without sin who continue to cast stones, this isn't about integrity, morals, or ethics. It's about, "can I keep the phone for $200".

It's exactly about integrity, morals and ethics. If you were sent something you didn't pay for and you keep it that's stealing. IF you only had to pay $200 and it should be full price that's not any better. Right is right and no amount of moral "justification" will change that.
 
I really feel bad for some of you.... have you no integrity? Honor? You want something for nothing and that is exactly what's wrong with people in society. Those of you that got a "free" phone need to call your provider and send it back/drop it off. Nothing is free and you will end up paying for it one way or another.

I have two canceled phones on the way. Not sure how I'll handle it. Already have my two iphone4s'.

For all those without sin who continue to cast stones, this isn't about integrity, morals, or ethics. It's about, "can I keep the phone for $200".

It's exactly about integrity, morals and ethics. If you were sent something you didn't pay for and you keep it that's stealing. IF you only had to pay $200 and it should be full price that's not any better. Right is right and no amount of moral "justification" will change that.

Ok who gives a ****..Just drop it..Its my thread and i got the answer I needed. I called att they told me i can keep the phone for 200 and Im doing just that..Selling it for 550 tomorrow and calling it a day..I suggest you guys call to and maybe you will have the same luck. I wish I had two more coming in lol
 
Ok who gives a ****..Just drop it..Its my thread and i got the answer I needed. I called att they told me i can keep the phone for 200 and Im doing just that..Selling it for 550 tomorrow and calling it a day..I suggest you guys call to and maybe you will have the same luck. I wish I had two more coming in lol

good news. keeping mine as well. thanks.
 
good news. keeping mine as well. thanks.

I said I CALLED and thats what she said to me..And from my understanding she didn't really understand that I was coming off tmobile. She thought i was a lne holder already..IDK,i got her words on paper signed by her so I'm fine,but that doesn't mean you won't. Don't gamble 600 bucks,unless you have the money to spare.
 
Those who judge and call others names (you would never do either to my face) have their own special set of issues. That's all.

Thanks for sharing the info. I will post later what I decide to do with my two $200 iphone4s' (white 16gb). I'm thinking eBay for 700ea. That oughtta send me straight to Hell.
 
Legally, if you're sent something by a company WITH YOUR NAME ON IT (misdeliveries don't count!) you're allowed to keep it.

This may be the stupidest statement I have ever heard.

Stick to being a cubical warrior and not an internet lawyer.

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Those who judge and call others names (you would never do either to my face) have their own special set of issues. That's all.

Thanks for sharing the info. I will post later what I decide to do with my two $200 iphone4s' (white 16gb). I'm thinking eBay for 700ea. That oughtta send me straight to Hell.

Trust me, they will get their money from you, and not just $200 but rather full retail value. If you doubt that, go ahead and do as planned. Come back and let us know when it doesn't play out as your dreaming.
 
don't worry guys...who care what they do with it....

i'm sure this thread has already been forward to ATT corporate as they are aware of what's going on....I'm sure they are making things right :)
 
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don't worry guys...who care what they do with it....

i'm sure this thread has already been forward to ATT corporate as they are aware of what's going on....I'm sure they are making things right :)

I just forwarded this thread to ATT corporate hahaha. I'm so mean right? :) everyone who is not a thief and is honest forward this thread to ATT Corporate @ http://www.corp.att.com/contact/forms/inquiries.html and let them know what's going on. And if you can post here if you let ATT know too.
 
According to Apple's web site, if you don't return the phone within 30 days, you will be charged an early termination fee.

You agreed to this as part of the terms on the Apple store's page.
 
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This is not the same, but a similar situation.

I ordered about $150 of books from Barnes & Nobel last year on Black Friday. By January, they still hadn't arrived and I called up and cancelled my order and received a full refund. The books arrived a month after that (3 months after I ordered them) and I never received a charge or call or anything. I still have the books, which were now free.
 
Pretty sure if ATT realizes that they gave you a free phone, they will charge you and it will supersede some outsourced lady telling you you can keep it for 200. Not to mention that there is a good chance you may have accidentally opened up a second line on your ATT account (the reason that you qualified for the discounted price). Regardless, they are a big business - they aren't retarded. Just wait for their databases to be updated and they are gonna come calling for all of their phones, and when you can't return them, enjoy getting smacked with $750 fee to your bill.
 
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