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So they will release an iPhone 4 that works as well as over 99% of the iPhone 4s currently being sold? Neat.
 
it will not be the iphone 5 it will just be the iphone 4 and will just have fixed the attenna and all will be normal

nope, the next new iPhone will be the iPhone 5 next June. with the exception of maybe a CDMA one for verizon if thats true, but thats it. get your head out of the clouds...
 
Question, If apple can make silent revisions to their other products, whats to stop them them doing the same with the iPhone4 come sept 30? If they do great! if they dont...oh well...but NO ONE knows for sure what is happening on the 30th other than Apple. Most of you say you are happy with the current iPhone, and even go as far as to say there is no antenna problem... so if apple decide they are going to improve signal strength... there is nothing you can really do.

To OP, the responses you are getting on here are no doubt from early adopters of the iPhone4 who HOPE TO HELL that apple won't revise the iPhone4 with an antenna fix or at the very least an improvement, because understandably they will be uber pissed!

They all talk like they're in the boardrooms with Jobs and co when these decissions are being made.

I can bet many posters on here have often been wrong and strong.;)
 
I work for At&t and last Saturday we finally got 16gb in stock to sell for walk in customers. I opened one up and noticed right away that something didnt seem right. There was a piece of plastic like material sticking slight out from under the antenna spot and between the screen. It looked like they just forgot to cut it off before they boxed it, but it was right at the antenna. I know I know I didnt take a pic, cause I didnt want to draw to much attention to it. I wish I could better describe it, but it seemed to lay under the antenna for sure. Once activated, and I held my thumb over the antenna strip, no bars dropped at all. So I guess this was the fix. And again NO i didnt take a pic:(
 
Question, If apple can make silent revisions to their other products, whats to stop them them doing the same with the iPhone4 come sept 30? If they do great! if they dont...oh well...but NO ONE knows for sure what is happening on the 30th other than Apple.

Lordy. did you even read the post above telling you why the Sept 30th date is important?

I work for At&t and last Saturday we finally got 16gb in stock to sell for walk in customers. I opened one up and noticed right away that something didnt seem right. There was a piece of plastic like material sticking slight out from under the antenna spot and between the screen. It looked like they just forgot to cut it off before they boxed it, but it was right at the antenna. I know I know I didnt take a pic, cause I didnt want to draw to much attention to it. I wish I could better describe it, but it seemed to lay under the antenna for sure. Once activated, and I held my thumb over the antenna strip, no bars dropped at all. So I guess this was the fix. And again NO i didnt take a pic:(

I call BS, or at least I call "misinterpreting being in a good signal area for seeing a hardware revision".
 
Lordy. did you even read the post above telling you why the Sept 30th date is important?



I call BS, or at least I call "misinterpreting being in a good signal area for seeing a hardware revision".

It did happen, but would it be a hardware revision if the strip was under the antenna, it wasnt on the outside of the phone, it was sticking out slightly from under the antenna area, but sticking out between the glass and the band. I hope that makes sense, I will for sure take a pic next time if I see it again.
 
Lordy. did you even read the post above telling you why the Sept 30th date is important?

Actually I did.


I also saw the part where the poster quoted Jobs on apparently saying:

"For every iPhone 4 purchased through September 30th, we'll re-examine this is september and decide wether to keep going or maybe we'll have a better idea."


So my question is, why can't "a better idea" be an iPhone revision?



Its possible.
 
So my question is, why can't "a better idea" be an iPhone revision?

Its possible.

But so vanishingly unlikely as to be effectively impossible. Can you say "massive class action lawsuit from everyone who's already bought an iPhone 4"? There's no way they'd risk that, plus the fact that Apple pretty clearly believe that the antenna's basically behaving as intended i.e. giving a better signal than the 3GS for the vast majority of users in the vast majority of situations at the cost of higher attenuation due to the external antenna and some issues in marginal signal areas. That's consistent with the anandtech tests on the antenna and what was said at the press conference.
 
But so vanishingly unlikely as to be effectively impossible. Can you say "massive class action lawsuit from everyone who's already bought an iPhone 4"? There's no way they'd risk that, plus the fact that Apple pretty clearly believe that the antenna's basically behaving as intended i.e. giving a better signal than the 3GS for the vast majority of users in the vast majority of situations at the cost of higher attenuation due to the external antenna and some issues in marginal signal areas. That's consistent with the anandtech tests on the antenna and what was said at the press conference.

I think your blowing this out... a class action lawsuit for what? an improvement.

Like you said, apple already publicly said the antenna is behaving as it should, so IF they decide to improve said product, they aren't exactly doing anything legally wrong are they? Morally in your eyes - no doubt yes. However they are perfectly within their right to improve their products...and that they have; year on year, with each new gen iPhone.
 
Actually I did.


I also saw the part where the poster quoted Jobs on apparently saying:

"For every iPhone 4 purchased through September 30th, we'll re-examine this is september and decide wether to keep going or maybe we'll have a better idea."


So my question is, why can't "a better idea" be an iPhone revision?



Its possible.

because any revision would have to go thru the FCC and these get leaked damn quick, and since there's been no leak, it's not happening. there's more evidence of a CDMA iPhone coming soon than a 'silent revision' being done.

and anything later than october is pointless as they're deep in working on iPhone 5 to come out in June.....
 
Yes Apple will make changes and improve the iPhone 4. It will be called the iPhone 5 due out next year.


So Apple should refuse to make changes that people are requesting? What about when the next iPhone model comes out, do they have to keep the same flaw to prevent people from complaining? If something is inconveniencing the users then they are within their right to fix it at anytime.
To the original question, yes you have 30 days to return it. Ignore all the other comments. Yes you can return it in 30 days. Whether you will be able to get a replacement model at that time is another question.
 
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