iOS If I buy the Apple iOS Dev account individually but I sign under my dad's name...?

[MathBunny123]

Hello! I'm 14 years old and I want to make apps for the iOS platform. I've already made some 3D games, but sadly I cannot place them on my physical iPod Touch for testing.

With this being said, could I sign up for the $99 program under my dad's name and still test the apps? And one more question - how many devices could I use?

 

[Duncan C]

Hello! I'm 14 years old and I want to make apps for the iOS platform. I've already made some 3D games, but sadly I cannot place them on my physical iPod Touch for testing.

With this being said, could I sign up for the $99 program under my dad's name and still test the apps? And one more question - how many devices could I use?

You should NOT sign the contract under your Dad's name. It's a binding legal contract, and you could get you and your father in a lot of trouble if you represent yourself as him. (You would be committing criminal fraud by signing contracts, because you have to be 18 in order to sign contracts.)

Ask him to sign up and be the "team agent", and make you an admin. You can do everything but sign contracts as an admin, which is perfect.

You can install test apps on up to 100 devices per developer account, but the developer provisioning profiles expire and have to be renewed fairly regularly (every 90 days if memory serves.)

 

[bindle]

Actually we now get 200 device slots

 

[PriapusZA]

Actually we now get 200 device slots

Still shows 100 device slots my side.

 

[dejo]

Ask him to sign up and be the "team agent", and make you an admin. You can do everything but sign contracts as an admin, which is perfect.

He needs to be very comfortable with this, if you take this approach. He is signing the legally binding contract, he is agreeing to all the conditions of it and the developer program, he is taking on the extra financial (taxes, etc.) obligation.

 

[MathBunny123]

You should NOT sign the contract under your Dad's name. It's a binding legal contract, and you could get you and your father in a lot of trouble if you represent yourself as him. (You would be committing criminal fraud by signing contracts, because you have to be 18 in order to sign contracts.)

Ask him to sign up and be the "team agent", and make you an admin. You can do everything but sign contracts as an admin, which is perfect.

You can install test apps on up to 100 devices per developer account, but the developer provisioning profiles expire and have to be renewed fairly regularly (every 90 days if memory serves.)

Woah, thanks for telling me! I never knew that...

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He needs to be very comfortable with this, if you take this approach. He is signing the legally binding contract, he is agreeing to all the conditions of it and the developer program, he is taking on the extra financial (taxes, etc.) obligation.

This isn't as simple as I initially thought...

 

[Duncan C]

Actually we now get 200 device slots

That's news to me. Where did you hear that? Can you point me to a link on Apple's site that tells us we get 200 devices? That would be a help to us. We use device slots for remote beta testers. We haven't hit 100 yet, but we're getting close, and having 200 slots would take the pressure off.

 

[MathBunny123]

That's news to me. Where did you hear that? Can you point me to a link on Apple's site that tells us we get 200 devices? That would be a help to us. We use device slots for remote beta testers. We haven't hit 100 yet, but we're getting close, and having 200 slots would take the pressure off.

It was on Macrumors a couple of days ago.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1623870/

 

[Duncan C]

It was on Macrumors a couple of days ago.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1623870/

I just looked in the developer portal and the total of the number of existing devices and the number of available devices adds up to 100. If Apple is increasing the device count to 200, they haven't done it yet.

Can you post the link here?

 

[bindle]

That's news to me. Where did you hear that? Can you point me to a link on Apple's site that tells us we get 200 devices? That would be a help to us. We use device slots for remote beta testers. We haven't hit 100 yet, but we're getting close, and having 200 slots would take the pressure off.

Haven't seen any official word yet - just saw by the MacRumors post and signed in to see that I indeed had 200 total slots available.

I first heard of it 2 days ago, so I'm surprised it hasn't rolled wider yet.

Let me add that 2 accounts I manage have been upgraded to 200 devices, and both were recently renewed between June & August.

 

[MathBunny123]

Wow, I just went to the Apple store and they stated that I should sign up under my dad's name...and it doesn't matter even if it's illegal.

 

[Duncan C]

Wow, I just went to the Apple store and they stated that I should sign up under my dad's name...and it doesn't matter even if it's illegal.

They are idiots. The folks in the Apple store don't know anything about the developer program. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Just have your dad sign up as the "team agent" with you as an admin.

 

[MathBunny123]

They are idiots. The folks in the Apple store don't know anything about the developer program. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Just have your dad sign up as the "team agent" with you as an admin.

True, ha ha. Anyways, it's the same cost - $99 - for team agent, correct?

 

[Duncan C]

True, ha ha. Anyways, it's the same cost - $99 - for team agent, correct?

A developer account is $99/year.

Apple has various team roles for the developers on an account. One person has to be the team agent. That's the person who signs the legal agreements. The team agent can do everything. This person must be a legal adult.

You can also create an admin account, who does everything else BUT sign legal agreements. Then you can have a team member, who can't set up new apps, create certificates, etc. They can only build apps that were created by the team agent.

For 1 person shops, you might ONLY have a team agent.

A father/kid team might have the dad as the team agent and the kid as an admin.

 

[pdjudd]

Wow, I just went to the Apple store and they stated that I should sign up under my dad's name...and it doesn't matter even if it's illegal.

They are idiots. The folks in the Apple store don't know anything about the developer program. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The Apple store employees are not legal representatives of the Developer and you should never take their advice on legal matters (like signing a legal contract.

You should only be asking the relevant employees - and that would be the developer program representatives.

 

[xArtx]

They are idiots. The folks in the Apple store don't know anything about the developer program. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Just have your dad sign up as the "team agent" with you as an admin.

When I went to the Apple Store, and told the salesperson I needed an Intel
based Mac Mini to run the development environment for iOS devices,
He replied "When you're done with that, they make a great media player".

 

[Duncan C]

When I went to the Apple Store, and told the salesperson I needed an Intel
based Mac Mini to run the development environment for iOS devices,
He replied "When you're done with that, they make a great media player".

They were right. Mac Minis do make excellent media players. I would prefer a mini over an Apple TV.