if I were Tim Cook and just watched the Note 8 presentation today...

[RtWrecklezX]

I'm starting to think these cell phone loan plans are the next bubble. Everyone will always upgrade regardless of the price increasing and becoming more in debt. Its gonna be interesting to see in the next 3-5 years.

 

[Will22]

I'd have to agree with the other guy. You have to be the most unlucky person possible when it comes to iPhones. I have had every one since the original besides the SE and I have only had one issue with my iPhone 4. It had a spec of something in the camera so i brought to them and they gave me a new one.

I suppose it could be down to standards, if I'm paying the cost of these phones I would like it to be as it should. At the moment I have a perfect iPhone 7 and 7+ but it was difficult especially with the 7 and all my replacements were new phones, not refurb phones.

 

[44267547]

I'm starting to think these cell phone loan plans are the next bubble. Everyone will always upgrade regardless of the price increasing and becoming more in debt. Its gonna be interesting to see in the next 3-5 years.

I partially agree. But the consumer has the option of also paying additional to the monthly fee on the iPhone. They don't have to pay just the minumum due, they can pay the device off quicker if they were to make more of an effort in doing so. At least that should be the goal anyways.

 

[bopajuice]

I'm not sure where that extreme confidence comes from.

There will be an educational and marketing shift to get consumers onboard with facial recognition. That's assuming the software is ready to go on day one.

The OLED iPhone is a glass sandwich with expensive cameras and iOS. Samsung is going for the traditional crowd who are seeking large phablets and perceived long battery life.

Isn't the Note 8 OLED as well? How is a full screen display with rounded edges going for the traditional crowd? Biased are we?

What is perceived battery life? Claimed by the manufacture? What does Apple claim and what does Samsung claim for battery life? I'm curious.
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Ill say this, if you have less than 5k in savings and you are buying a 1k phone you have your priorities all wrong.

Sad to think many people with $50 in their savings and living week to week are going to buy these phones. Most providers will say it's only $35 a month right?

As time goes on this is going to get interesting. Phone prices continue to go up, so more people will turn to financing. The interesting part is when the price gets to the point where financing will have to be 30 to 40 months in order to keep it affordable. Nobody keeps a phone for three years or more. Wonder how the manufacturers will handle that predicament?.

 

[JPack]

Isn't the Note 8 OLED as well? How is a full screen display with rounded edges going for the traditional crowd? Biased are we?

What is perceived battery life? Claimed by the manufacture? What does Apple claim and what does Samsung claim for battery life? I'm curious.

The Note has a traditional top and bottom bezel. It's an iterative update with more of the usual suspects: bigger display, more memory, headphone jack, microSD slot, and stylus input. Samsung emphasizes the "mAh" rating as the first line item under their battery spec.

The OLED iPhone has the highest screen to body ratio because of the notch. It completely removes the home button concept and relies on gestures. It removes fingerprint recognition and uses an IR camera. Apple compares battery life to the previous gen phone and lets benchmarks do the talking.

 

[bopajuice]

The Note has a traditional top and bottom bezel. It's an iterative update with more of the usual suspects: bigger display, more memory, headphone jack, microSD slot, and stylus input. Samsung emphasizes the "mAh" rating as the first line item under their battery spec.

The OLED iPhone has the highest screen to body ratio because of the notch. It completely removes the home button concept and relies on gestures. It removes fingerprint recognition and uses an IR camera. Apple compares battery life to the previous gen phone and lets benchmarks do the talking.

I miss the headphone jack. Had to buy another "dongle" today so I could use my phone in my car to listen to music.

Highest screen to body ratio? Notch? where is this coming from?

We have not even been able to use the new iPhone yet, and you make it sound like the removal of the home button and gestures is better. How do you know?

Further more, I think omitting an SD card slot is an error on Apple's part. Do you prefer paying more for memory? Is paying more and omitting features considered cutting edge?

Finally, what are the run times of the Note and iPhone? So what if Samsung advertises mAh, and Apple compares it to their past models. What is the actual run time of each?

I appreciate your enthusiasm, making it sound like the Note is old technology, but I don't agree.

 

[JPack]

I miss the headphone jack. Had to buy another "dongle" today so I could use my phone in my car to listen to music.

Highest screen to body ratio? Notch? where is this coming from?

We have not even been able to use the new iPhone yet, and you make it sound like the removal of the home button and gestures is better. How do you know?

Further more, I think omitting an SD card slot is an error on Apple's part. Do you prefer paying more for memory? Is paying more and omitting features considered cutting edge?

Finally, what are the run times of the Note and iPhone? So what if Samsung advertises mAh, and Apple compares it to their past models. What is the actual run time of each?

I appreciate your enthusiasm, making it sound like the Note is old technology, but I don't agree.

Many of the Note features attract customers looking for a traditional phablet. It's not old tech, simply iterative tech.

The Essential PH-1 phone already has a higher screen to body ratio than the Note 8 because it uses a notch design and a bottom bezel. The OLED iPhone will not have a bottom bezel but a bigger notch.

Bluetooth has been virtually standard on most cars in the past several years, even on entry level models like Nissan Versa Note.

MicroSD storage vs. cloud storage. Once again, it's a traditional feature vs. always connected users with a large or unlimited data plan.

Samsung sells mAh similar to the way they sell RAM, octo-core, and GHz. It's another spec that seems to be high until you look at the run time and performance benchmarks.

 

[bopajuice]

Many of the Note features attract customers looking for a traditional phablet. It's not old tech, simply iterative tech.

The Essential PH-1 phone already has a higher screen to body ratio than the Note 8 because it uses a notch design and a bottom bezel. The OLED iPhone will not have a bottom bezel but a bigger notch.

Bluetooth has been virtually standard on most cars in the past several years, even on entry level models like Nissan Versa Note.

MicroSD storage vs. cloud storage. Once again, it's a traditional feature vs. always connected users with a large or unlimited data plan.

Samsung sells mAh similar to the way they sell RAM, octo-core, and GHz. It's another spec that seems to be high until you look at the run time and performance benchmarks.

My 2014 Maxima (3 years old) has BT for hands free calling but does not support music. My Integra amp does not have BT and I'm not going to spend another couple of grand to have it. I have three pairs of high end headphones that plug in. Long story short, miss the headphone jack.

The only dated part I can find is the use of the term phablet. Is that even a label anymore? Would the 7 plus be considered a phablet? What's the cut off size? Does it only apply to Samsung?

Not a fan of cloud storage. I've lost music and photos using cloud storage. Not for me. I have a NAS in my home that I access remotely.

Enjoy the new iPhone.